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Moral Logic And Military Force

A comments section conversation about WikiLeaks between myself and my FPA-o-sphere colleague Patrick Frost has morphed into a conversation about the morality of American military force.  Patrick wrote:

The US military’s history of bringing literally unsurpassed prosperity, liberty, and security to the world in the past 70 years cannot even be compared to a minimal anti-war website.

While it may be worthwhile to examine the comparative moral standings of the U.S. military versus WikiLeaks (after all, I brought it up), I think it might be more worthwhile to zero in on the morality of the U.S.’s use of military force.  Interestingly, many of the same issues that arise while assessing U.S. military strategy arise while assessing military morality.  For example, I wrote last month of the Afghan zugzwang in which the U.S. finds itself.  The potential strategic costs of staying are great, as are the potential strategic costs of withdrawing.  No matter what the U.S. decides to do, it risks weakening its position.

But the same is true from a moral standpoint.  Since there are moral costs either way, the U.S. finds itself in a moral zugzwang.  The problem is also similar to one touched on by Stephen Walt in a post he wrote a couple months ago.  If we want to make a strategic argument for withdrawal, we must argue that the strategic costs of continuing to fight outweigh the strategic costs of withdrawal.  From a moral standpoint, we encounter the same issue.  If we want to argue that the suffering we cause by waging war is moral, we must argue that the suffering that would have resulted had we refrained would have been greater.  This moral logic is often applied to the Afghanistan War, as Patrick’s FPA Afghanistan colleague Faheem Haider noted last week.  The same logic is often applied to the Iraq War as well.  As Tom Engelhardt wrote:

[Saddam Hussein's] was a brutal regime; his killing fields were a moral nightmare; and in the period leading up to the war (and after), they were also a central fact of American life.  On the other hand, however many Iraqis died in those killing fields, more would undoubtedly die in the years that followed, thanks to the events loosed by the Bush administration’s invasion.  That dying has yet to end, and seems once again to be on the rise.

Even if we take what to many is the most uncontroversial use of U.S. military force, World War II, moral complexities arise.  What was the moral value of the bombing of Dresden, or Hiroshima and Nagasaki?  Or the pre-Hiroshima bombings of Japan, as Robert McNamara outlines in The Fog of War:

The bombings, McNarama states, were “not proportional, in the minds of some people, to the objectives we were trying to achieve.”  U.S. officials “were behaving as war criminals… What makes it immoral if you lose and not immoral if you win?”

Noam Chomsky has a different take, boiling it down to the maxim that we are responsible for the predicted outcomes to our actions.  With this logic, he argues that the war in Afghanistan is immoral (starting at 4:10):

He uses this same logic elsewhere to argue that the U.S.bombing of Serbia in 1999 was immoral.  Is there a flaw in his moral assessment?  How can we best gauge the morality of using military force?  I write this in the hopes of sparking more conversation, with Patrick, Faheem, and of course, anyone else who desires to join.

     
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    1. Patrick Frost
      Patrick Frost Wednesday - 11 / 08 / 2010 Reply
      Good questions Rob. First off, war will always bring about these types of moral questions and they will continually be argued. In my opinion, context and purpose matter greatly. For instance, McNamara may call US bombings of Japanese cities 'war criminal' behavior, but I believe he is wrong when it comes to the context and purpose. Japan started an all out war with the United States and they showed every willingness to fight to the end. They would defend strategically insignificant islands to the last man. In other words, they sacrificed their own men to inflict the most damage on their adversary, the Americans. I can't remember the islands name unfortunately, but the US lost nearly 20,000 soldiers fighting such a Japanese force. Was this not imoral behavior by the Japanese military leadership? I would not call it so. I would call it war, but by following McNamara's logic it would seem to be 'war criminal' behavior. As to Chomsky, he pretty much argues against any US military, social, economic action so I can't take him seriously. Also, he has a thing for totalitarian, brutal regimes (see Khmer Rouge). Purpose and reason for the fighting is also crucial. The United States did not go into Iraq to kill civilians and repress citizens. Saddam Hussein did. Now all sides bare responsibility for subsequent civilian deaths and as I said before, if I was the family member of a dead Afghan I probably wouldn't care who killed my brother, mom, father, etc. I would just be sad and angry, but when it comes to a moral arguement the US military has been on the side of good far more often than bad. In the Afghan case of the US vs. Taliban, the US is clearly the more moral force as the Taliban desire (and have already shown the will deliver) a totalitarian state of misery. The latest UN report on civilian Afghan casualties gives the Taliban culpability for 76% of civilian deaths and the coalition forces only 16%. Important in this is the fact that most of the Taliban's civilian killings were on purpose! while suredly most of the coalitions were accidents. A side's purpose matters. http://unama.unmissions.org/Default.aspx?tabid=1741&ctl=Details&mid=1882&ItemID=9955 Hope this made some sense and this is definitely a challenging, somber debate.
    2. Patrick Frost
      Patrick Frost Wednesday - 11 / 08 / 2010 Reply
      More on the the morality of Wikileaks: From Foreign Policy's AfPak Daily Brief 'In a leaked email exchange released yesterday, five prominent human rights groups including Amnesty International and the International Crisis Group wrote a letter to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange urging the latter to redact the names of Afghans who worked with international forces from thousands of documents released online (Guardian, BBC, Independent, Tel). The exchange prompted angry retorts from Assange, who demanded that Amnesty provide staff to help search through the documents, and the WikiLeaks Twitter account ran a message saying that Amnesty International, "is primary [sic] funded by the occupying forces of Afghanistan" (CNN).' What a thoughtful person, Assange is. Impressive of him to castigate the US military, government, and Amnesty International in one fell tweet. These instances show a person concerned not with the welfare of the people of Afghanistan (or any people for that matter), but only for his anti-war, anti-American agenda.
    3. Faheem Haider
      Faheem Haider Thursday - 12 / 08 / 2010 Reply
      I think that Pat is right to argue for context and purpose. But brutality morality of outcomes, which is the thing now at question, can't be determined solely on the morality of actions or whatever we might decide to be context, etc. To the extent that the outcome at hand is in some sense disapprobative, we have to look at how this is so. I'd argued earlier that whatever the Taliban's strategy or actions, moral or otherwise, we the U.S, ISAF contingent must abide by our own moral arguments for war. I think that's what McNamara was trying to say: judged from our own viewpoint, in retrospect, he would call the fire bombing of Dresden, etc a war crime. This, no matter what the Germans or Japanese did.
    4. Rob Grace Friday - 13 / 08 / 2010 Reply
      I'm with Faheem (at least as I interpret what Faheem said) that the brutality of our enemy's conduct doesn't justify brutality on our part. From a moral perspective, the Taliban's killing of civilians doesn't alone excuse our killing of civilians, even if we kill fewer than we do. "Purpose" is certainly important from a legal point of view. As long as you're not targeting civilians, you can kill them, restrained only by nebulous conceptions of proportionality (the civilian damage done must be proportional to the strategic value of the military target). So - since the Taliban targets civilians and ISAF only intends to target military targets (the U.S. did want to target civilians but was restrained by its NATO allies - see: http://parabasis.typepad.com/blog/2009/09/the-joint-integrated-prioritized-target-list.html) - ISAF has international law on its side while the Taliban does not. But, as Charli Carpenter writes in the NYT... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/12/opinion/12iht-edcarpenter.html ... "This is an ethical tragedy, particularly because collateral damage may now be a more serious humanitarian issue than war crimes in some conflict zones." International law provides relatively little protection for civilians and is not necessarily moral. But what you are talking about, it seems, is our war aims. The morality of our ends, you seem to say, justify our means. But does the morality of the war shift if the purpose of the war shifts? As Faheem wrote last week, our purpose in Afghanistan (at least as it is publicly stated in the political arena) has shifted from a grandiose one about freedom and democracy to a more strategic one about preventing Al Qaeda safe havens in Afghanistan. Our purpose now, at least as I perceive it, is to leave Afghanistan in a state of civil war in which the Karzai government has the upper hand and is in a position to strike power sharing deals with the Taliban. Is that a morally sound end? It seems less moral than an end about freedom and democracy. Is the war less moral than it was when we had more grandiose goals?

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