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Sustainable Peace: Why Somaliland Matters

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Like in wars between states and other organized groups, civil wars and other protracted domestic conflicts are seldom caused by a single factor. Over time, even those that prove to be the exception to the rule eventually evolve into a much more complex conflict- hence the entity known as Somaliland.

A Brief History

Only five days after gaining its independence from the colonial power on June 26, 1960, British Somaliland joined in a union with their brethren in Italian Somaliland, which gained its independence on July 1, 1960. The union was widely supported by the public and the political leadership of both sides. Immediately, upon the latter’s independence, the legislative councils of both newly independent states met in a joint session in Mogadishu to form the new republic’s national assembly, in which they elected Aden Abdulle Osman as the first president of the new democratic nation.

Though historians and other reasonable minds might differ on this, the North—as today’s Somaliland was domestically known—is generally believed that it got the short end of the union deal. However, one thing that is not in dispute is the fact that in 1988 the military government led by Mohamed Siad Bare carried out a devastating and brutal military campaign to crush the resistance movement known as the Somali National Movement (SNM)–a movement that later would evolve as Somali Northern Movement–which was gaining a popular support in the North. Though the said campaign was against the SNM whose main agenda was to recall the Act of the Union signed shortly after the founding of the new nation, in the process, it greatly affected various communities in that region.

While the SNM was generally the target and it operated out of the North, it was no secret that the tyrannical military system–which was made up of all sorts of clans–targeted the one particular clan considered to be the central pillar of the movement: the Isaqs. Never mind that there has never been a single clan that was entirely secessionist, let alone an entire region holding that view. That is why members of that clan were part of the military government, the first post-civil war administration known as the Transitional National Government (TNG), and are now part of the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) and all the transitional institutions.

Fast forward to 1991 and the subsequent two decades when the state imploded, the military by and large disbanded into clan militias, and anarchy, insecurity, famine, piracy, and helplessness consumed the mind and blurred the vision. It was in that period when the two entities currently known as Somalia and Somaliland would drift apart. Somalia would be mired by protracted wars, anarchy and their byproducts while Somaliland would establish a semblance of peace and stability and indeed good governance. The latter declared its secession and the former has ever since been chasing the political mirage of first solving the Southern problem before attempting to engage the Northern one.

Two decades later the quixotic task of ritualistically attempting to search and find the solution elements only in the South have proven futile and in many ways detrimental.

Changing Conditions

Today, there are new dynamics that have been altering realities on the ground. Though these dynamics have both positive and negative components, in the whole they have begun pushing Somalis from North and South into a realm of unclenched fists and extended hands. And that is profound progress. Contrary to the nineties and the first decade of the twenty-first century, there is now more interface and interaction, cross-marriage, and cross-migration.

Perhaps because of time’s capacity to heal the hurt, the attitude of hostility that rendered all forms of reasoned discourse dead on arrival has gradually been tamed and by and large neutralized. The result has been a political maturity of both sides that cannot be denied. In various pockets across the Somali diaspora communities, there are unofficial dialogue groups that discuss how to end the status quo and settle our differences.

The ever-evolving contentious struggle to reshape the North region of Somalia along clan identities carves out clan minefields with the potential to blow at up any time. The geographical area initially declared as Somaliland is now divided into four different territories: the Somaliland, Khaatumo, Awdal, and Maakhir states. The latter three—all populated mainly by non Isaqs—oppose secession. Recent tensions in Buhoodle area that caused many deaths is simply in hibernation.

Clan wars have shifted away from its seemingly perpetual habitat in Mogadishu and its surroundings into places such as Somaliland and Puntland. What is more worrisome than that might be that, unless derailed, threats emanating from religious extremism could also shift into these two regions. And that probability is increased by the fact that some of the highest ranking al-Shabaab members hail from Somaliland and Puntland.

The post-civil war generation–made up of the youth who grew up in the age of cynicism and distrust while the wounds of the 1988 campaign were still fresh, and the collective guilt of those who hailed from the south was not only justified but a popular norm–still make up the only remaining block whose majority still uphold secessionist ideals.

There is a growing trend of the revered cultural elders or clan leaders breaking ranks with the official secessionist position after realizing the infeasibility of that political enterprise. Some have even gone public with their new views.

The business community on both sides, mindful of the economic interdependency of Hargaisa and Mogadishu, are openly eager to see an alternative to the status quo. Furthermore, many well to do Northern families who had properties in the South are also eager to reclaim what is rightfully theirs.

International Support to the Secession Movement

As it was underlined in the London and Istanbul Conferences, foreign support for secession has reached a dead-end primarily because of two factors. Internally, it is the non-sustainability of Somaliland’s claimed boarder and the potential for perpetual clan contentions. Externally, it is Ethiopia’s long-standing policy toward Somalia which is based on supporting one Somali political entity against another while diplomatically or otherwise bulwarking against any serious momentum toward secession.

Due to its desire for unlimited sea access, landlocked Ethiopia finds Somaliland a convenient arrangement and an entity that it would’ve invented had it not existed. By the same token, it sees the option to recognize Somaliland as a political Pandora’s Box that could embolden the secession aspirations of the ethnically Somali Ogaden region in Ethiopia. Perhaps beyond the economic consequence of losing an oil-rich region or any threat that al-Shabaab might present, Ethiopia finds a bigger strategic threat in the possibility of ethnic Somalis securing four seats in the powerful regional authority IGAD not to mention AU and UN. Meanwhile, Ethiopia which operates Somaliland’s security apparatus continues an unbearably intrusive policy that systematically disillusions many of the locals and the visitors from the diaspora alike.

Then came the US’ Dual-Track Policy which inadvertently unveiled the dangers ahead as it inspired over 30 (a number that’s still growing) clan-based states, each with its declared president, parliament, defense, and foreign minister.

Peace Gestures

Though Article 1(a) of the 1960 Act of Union clearly stated “The State of Somaliland and the State of Somalia do hereby unite and shall forever remain united in a new, independent, democratic, unitary republic the name whereof shall be the Somali Republic,” neither the TFG nor TNG before attempted to enforce the “forever” part.

Furthermore, with all their shortcomings as they were by no means perfect, both the TFG and the TNG have honored Article 3(i), which states “All persons who upon the date of this Union possess the citizenship of Somaliland and Somalia respectively shall by this Union now become citizens of the Somali Republic.” They both refrained from putting pressure on the secessionists by using the Somali passport as political leverage. The Somali passport is still unconditionally available and indeed used by the Somaliland secessionists and non-secessionists alike. Likewise, Somaliland is still allowed to use the 252 Gateway for its telephone connections and the .SO for the internet, all owned by Somalia the state.

Recently, the TFG unilaterally negotiated with Somaliland to share the revenues generated from usage of the Somali air space. Even so, the Ghost-lords in Nairobi (that chronically corrupt network of institutions, governmental and non-governmental agencies who operate under the auspices of the international community) still continue to slow down the process to free these revenues.

Perhaps more importantly, on June 26, 2011, President Sharif Ahmed became the first leader from the South to formally and publically acknowledge the wrongs that was done onto our brethren in North. He has affirmed their long ignored grievance and extended an apology and invited them for dialogue and reconciliation.

Then came the London Conference on Somalia held on February 23, 2012 in which, at last, the international community decided to add Article 6 which calls for Somalia and Somaliland to engage in a direct dialogue in order to achieve a holistic approach to peace.

Since then Somaliland has appointed a high level committee to start dialogue with Somalia. The latter on its part has appointed its own committee. Unfortunately, upon their nomination, Somaliland felt that the committee was not up to par and withdrew its committee. In retrospect and in fairness to Somaliland, the initial stage of the dialogue is the most crucial. Both parties must have confidence in the appointees’ moral character, ability for empathic engagement, and the capacity to build confidence for the process to continue.

Within the 1st week of June 2012, after the Istanbul II Conference, President Sharif met with Somalia’s traditional elders who represent all clans to take the lead by engaging their counterparts in the North to rekindle the negotiation process. Counting on their collective wisdom, he offered them a carte blanche of accepting their collective decision “We need you to take constructive role in jump-starting a dialogue between the transitional federal government (TFG) and Somaliland. We will welcome all your recommendations,” he said. This looks like a wise first step.

Behind the scenes, some pragmatic political elites, traditional leaders, and intellectuals are already expressing grave concerns about the strategic clan-based threats encircling the Isaqs that could have a long-term bloody ramification. And this indeed requires a sober thinking and sound compromise.

The political landscape of that region is painted with clan sensitivities that can only be neutralized by a sense of unity, which only an effectively functioning and a just state could guarantee. The nature of that future state could and should be negotiated.

We still have the potential to rise from the ashes and become a competently functioning if not a greater, more just nation. Used wisely, we have a number of the elements that national powers are built on, strategic location, natural resources and a resilient and resourceful population. Through the latter, we can reconcile our differences, confluence our collective interests, craft our national vision, negotiate the right social contract, build the right institutions, recruit the right technocrats, and cultivate the right leadership to sustain our progress and holistically reform our society. It is entirely up to us.

Throughout history, it was men and women of vision coupled with some courage who changed the course of history. The leadership of Somaliland has the opportunity to change the course of history and spearhead a better future for all Somalis.

 
  • Arte Abdi

    Wow.. This is an article based on facts and no sugar coating. The only problem I have with your hypothesis is that you are giving a lot of credit to Sharif Ahmed he doesn’t deserve. If he was smart he would have appointed a team led by people with high integrity and who has some cloud to their brethren in the North. But I hope this article will rekindle a healthy debate that will lead to a Somali state, that is democratic and prosperous.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Arte, for the kind feedback. There were many missed opportunities on both sides. As human beings, leaders will make mistakes, miscalculations, and misjudgements. That is given. However, I suspect their capacity of good leadership is ultimately judged by their willingness and wisdom to learn from past mistakes and make a better judgement for the common interest of the people. Echoing your words, “I hope this article will rekindle a healthy debate that will lead to a Somali state, that is democratic and prosperous.”

      • Aden Gesi

        Well Mr Arman is expressing his viewpoint. More importantly is what Amb Shinn has now posted on his blog:
        Conservative Think Tank Proposes Somalia Policy –
        The Washington-based conservative think tank, The Heritage Foundation, published a background paper on 18 May 2012 titled Saving Somalia: The Next Steps for the Obama Administration. The authors, Morgan Lorraine Roach and Ray Walser, both with the Heritage Foundation, make a number of controversial recommendations including recognition of Somaliland’s independence and putting Eritrea on the list of state sponsors of terrorism. http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/05/saving-somalia-the-next-steps-for-the-obama-administration

      • Mahdi Gabose

        Missing the Mark.
        After reading Mr. Abucar Arman’s article on “Sustainable Peace: Why Somaliland Matters”, I can’t help but notice a number of rather large inaccuracy and a surprising lack of knowledge on some basic facts.
        It is particularly disappointing when a representative of the TFG government; someone as eloquent and supposedly well versed on “Somali issues” treats such an important subject i.e. the current relationship and future one between Somalia and Somaliland with obvious inaccuracies peppered with casual and quite superficial observations readily available at coffee shops..
        Let’s address the inaccuracies first:
        The author wrote that the SNM was secessionist movement;
        The fact is that the SNM Movement was never a secessionist movement; it was a struggle necessitated by pure survival for an entire people desperate simply to live. Not once did the SNM Movement declare that it is intention was to reclaim sovereignty back for Somaliland, they fought for nothing more than their survival, their dignity, and the need to protect their loved ones. They were made up of ordinary citizens who simply got tired of the daily dose of injustice and brutal treatment administered to them by the regime in Mogadishu.
        Unlike what happened in Mogadishu, these very people after liberating their own country and people did not go on a vengeance binge but found the courage, and wisdom to start a reconciliation process in 1991 between the inhabitants of Somaliland and in the interest of peace and stability issued a blanket forgiveness to all its citizens.
        That process culminated at a peace accord signed in Berbera by all the tribes native to Somaliland , which become the foundation of the lasting peace that exist in Somaliland today. The outcome of the reconciliation talks in Berbera led to the declaration on May 18th in Burao that reclaimed Somaliland’s sovereignty. This was followed by a National Referendum observed by a number of International Organizations such as the IRI (international Republican Institute), the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), as well as many other International election observers, where 97% of the people choose Independence over Union.
        These are not innuendos or hear say, these are simply the facts!
        In Somaliland a participatory process where everyone has a seat at the table has been in place since day one, and every action taken by Somaliland was one supported by the people and not by few individuals or by a particular clan. Where else but in Somaliland can someone not from the majority tribe be elected president and remain to this date the longest serving president in Somaliland (HE. President Dahir Rayale)? Where else in Africa but in a very mature democracy can a president loose an election and accept the will of the people and peacefully transfer power to the winner of the election?
        The article also cited that during the massive genocidal campaign against the people of Somaliland by the Siyad Barre regime that there were some “Issaq” individuals who were serving the regime at different levels. I fail to see the relevance of that observation.
        Does it mean it is less odious to commit genocide if some individuals of the clan one intends to eradicate take part in the act? Does it mean that the individuals in question represented the wishes of the people they were killing; therefore it was not a crime? Since the act cannot be denied, does it provide some comfort to some in saying that there were some individuals who were affiliated to the Issaq tribe who also took part in the death and destruction taking place in Somaliland?
        Let’s assume for the sake of the argument that there were “Issaq” individuals serving the Barre regime , and let’s also assume that they were a bunch of sadistic murders who enjoyed inflicting pain on their victims. Does that make a difference for the masses that were bombed, looted and raped? Does it diminish the magnitude of the crime?
        Please enlighten us, what are you saying here?
        The same flawed logic was followed when the article stated that Somaliland was fully represented in every TFG past and present, simply because some carpet beggars showed up in Mogadishu looking to partake in the looting of the Somali people. Surely you cannot believe their presence constitutes the will of the people of Somaliland. Unlike Mogadishu Somaliland cannot be represented by an individual picked by some foreign power in a foreign capital, or a self appointed one for that matter. In Somaliland people elect their leaders at every level of government and unless you can produce any evidence where an official representative for the Somaliland government present or past has taken part or had anything to do with any TFG present or past, one can surmise that you are either ill informed or less than truthful in your presentation.
        Lastly, you wrote about the imminent demise of Somaliland because of the lack of recognition and the triple threat posed by “Khatumo, Awdal and Maakhir, and even though there is no denying that Somaliland faces some monumental obstacles in its path, there is also no denying the ability, the resolve, the wisdom and the proven track record of these remarkable people to solve difficult issues as they face them and conquer them in short order
        It is the case that not all the inhabitants of Somaliland are of one mind when it comes to independence, but unlike Mogadishu, in Somaliland consensus, respect for the rule of law, traditional peace resolutions and the democratic process is the chosen path for the people when change is in order. All of the regions you have mentioned in your article are full partners and signed the Borama peace accord. More importantly, the people ratified the Somaliland Constitution which clearly states the Sovereignty of Somaliland is sacrosanct.
        Occasional flare ups in one region instigated and supported by personality fueled by political ambitions that are based in the Diaspora do not constitute the doom and gloom you so easily predict. There are some folks in Texas and Quebec who feels those states should become independent nations, but those aspirations are rendered mute by the democratic voting process when the majority of the inhabitants of those states vote otherwise.
        The only lasting change that can take root in Somaliland is the one brought about by the ballot and not by the bullets. People in Somaliland have no need to go to a foreign capital or take up arms against anyone, they just use the power guaranteed by the Somaliland Constitution to all its inhabitants and vote the rascals out to bring about the desired change.
        As far as recognition is concerned, you seem to think there is a specific time limit on it, where one should seize the effort if one has not reached that goal, yet you pay no mind to the fact that Mogadishu has been trying to establish a working government just as long as Hargeisa has been trying to be recognized as the capital of the newest nation. No one is suggesting that Somalia should stop trying to form its own legitimate government, why on earth are you suggesting that Somaliland should stop its aspiration to join the international community as a responsible member of its community. They most certainly demonstrated to everyone all the desired prerequisites and qualification for nationhood.
        Anyone who still doubts Somaliland’s nationhood need only to notice how May 18th (Somaliland’s reassertion of Sovereignty day)is celebrated worldwide by Somaliland’s citizens in and out of the country and compare that to July 1st (Somalia’s independence day).
        I will conclude this piece by sharing the story of the Rain Dance performed by some American Indian tribes which brings about the rain every time they dance. This is not a magical dance, nor do they have special powers that the rest of us lack, they are successful because they don’t stop dancing until it rains!
        To those who ask when will Somaliland stop asking for recognition I say, the very day it does get recognized!
        It is unwise on your part to interpret Somaliland’s participation in these discussions as a sign of weakness, or that Somaliland engaging Somalia is brought about by external or internal pressures, the simple fact is that Somaliland has reached a maturity level and enough confidence in its system of governance to tackle complex and difficult entities including its very pricky neighborSomalia.
        Somaliland is the senior and more stable partner in these discussions and the real issue being discussed here from Somaliland’s perspective is how can it amicably extricate itself from the affairs of Somalia and continue its journey toward a bright future shaped and chiseled by its own people.
        Mahdi Gabose. [email protected]
        Somaliland Mission
        Address: 1425 K Street, NW, Suite 350
        Washington DC 20005 USA
        [email protected]

        • Abukar Arman

          When I first read Mahdi Gabose’s comment my initial reaction was to simply respond with a one-liner that says “Thank you” until I realized that this is not about me. And that in order to attain genuine reconciliation a lot misconceptions, misrepresentations, and conveniently constructed narratives must be challenged. It was in that spirit that the article was written, and it is in that spirit that I would respectfully challenge some of Mahdi’s claims. [To the general audience and indeed for disclosure, Mahdi and I are not strangers to one another.]

          Mahdi wrote: “The fact is that the SNM Movement was never a secessionist movement…” You are right, Mahdi, SNM was not a secessionist movement; at least not in its initial phase. Before its evolution, among its supporters were Northern and Southern nationalists who were fed up with the tyranny of the military system, hence the name Somali National Movement. That said, no one can deny that in late 80s (some say even earlier) SNM was no longer considered Somali National Movement. On a personal level, around 87-94, almost all of my Northern friends in Houston, Texas (then considered the largest concentration of Northern Somalis in the US) who were rightfully angry at all things Somali and Southern used to openly refer to the movement as the Somali Northern Movement. In fact, to define SNM by the original meaning of the acronym was considered an act of aggression.

          In a clear effort of cherry-picking through the article, Mahdi wrote ““The article also cited that during the massive genocidal campaign against the people of Somaliland by the Siyad Barre regime that there were some ‘Issaq’ individuals who were serving the regime at different levels. I fail to see the relevance of that observation”. Instead of asking for a simple clarification, Mahdi offers several paragraphs of rant cleverly spiced with over a half dozen of cynical questions seemingly intended to stir emotions.

          Mahdi, anyone who read the statement that you referenced in context (at least the whole paragraph) could see the reason that I mention “Isaqs” being part of the brutal military regime had no malicious intention. As you are well aware, there are demagogues on both sides that came blame the vicious campaign of the military on one clan or another to justify or add fuel to clan hatred. As indicated in the paragraph below, my intention was to underscore that is was a military dictator and his cronies and the vicious system that they built to use as an instrument of oppression that carried the mass killings of 1988. Here is what I wrote: “ While the SNM was generally the target and it operated out of the North, it was no secret that the tyrannical military system–which was made up of all sorts of clans–targeted the one particular clan considered to be the central pillar of the movement: the Isaqs. Never mind that there has never been a single clan that was entirely secessionist, let alone an entire region holding that view. That is why members of that clan were part of the military government, the first post-civil war administration known as the Transitional National Government (TNG), and are now part of the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) and all the transitional institutions.”

          Again Mahdi writes, “The same flawed logic was followed when the article stated that Somaliland was fully represented in every TFG past and present, simply because some carpet beggars (read Carpetbaggers) showed up in Mogadishu looking to partake in the looting of the Somali people. Surely you cannot believe their presence constitutes the will of the people of Somaliland. Unlike Mogadishu Somaliland cannot be represented by an individual picked by some foreign power in a foreign capital, or a self appointed one for that matter.” First, let me admit as I have done in so many occasions before, our brothers in the North have done something good in advancing democracy and good governance. That said, I respectfully reject the defamatory labeling of the many Northern traditional elders, members of the Parliament, and officials within the TFG as “Carpetbaggers” for the same reason that I would have rejected any one from Khaatumo, Maakhir, and Awdal to call individuals from their clan folks who serve in Somaliland on one capacity or another similar derogatory term.

          Lastly Mahdi writes, “It is unwise on your part to interpret Somaliland’s participation in these discussions as a sign of weakness, or that Somaliland engaging Somalia is brought about by external or internal pressures, the simple fact is that Somaliland has reached a maturity level and enough confidence in its system of governance to tackle complex and difficult entities including its very pricky neighborSomalia”. Point well taken, Mahdi! Let us agree that something good is happening, and that the London and Dubai meetings set off a positive process that inspires hope for a better future. Let us wish all Somalis, regardless of how they describe themselves, the very best.

  • Abdul

    Really Enjoyed This read, But i still doupt The last touch of obtimism you ended with your article.I doupt the leaders in Somaliland will Take the Step forward esp with current Administration in Somaliland.
    Nevertheless, We Do Hope They Do The North And South Are unseparatable. Only with The Unity Of The first two Can we Hope One day as Long as It might take, The Five Somali’s Unite.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Abdul, for the feedback. I am afraid I am not that pessimistic regarding the Somaliland leadership. Remember, given the same opportunity in different conditions, the human may act entirely differently.

  • Carlito

    Your article although well written seems to entertain certain inaccuracies.
    You seem to allude to the argument that Somaliland is a project driven by Clan Elites without acknowledging the concrete fact that it is the majority of those in Somaliland who support its re-independence as proven by the 2001 Referendum on Somaliland’s Constitution in 2001 whereby 97% of the population supported Somaliland’s independence as verified by international institutions. Also, if you were sincerely objective you would have acknowledged the fact that Somaliland was built on inter-clan reconciliation as proven by the Boorama 1993 Conference which bought peace to all the clans in the “North” and laid the foundations for Somaliland’s independence. Somaliland is not a pariah state, its people have spoken and made their decision, instead of trying to rebuke Somaliland you should applaud its achievements that it has made. Indeed you would want a representative and democratically elected government in Mogadishu, which is exactly what Somaliland has. President Silanyo is the only democratically elected leader in the Horn of Africa, surely this is something to be proud of as fellow Somalis. In addition, you fail to understand that 70% of Somaliland’s population (including the diaspora) are under 20 years of age such as myself, meaning they have no recollection of a unified Somalia and thus their national identity is affiliated to Somaliland and not Somalia, this is not something you can change overnight. Somaliland has healthy institutions such as; its own government, currency, civil service and media houses along with a vibrant civil society. Somaliland has continued with its remarkable state building for 21 years it is not feasible that Somaliland would abandon this considering that its people having already decided on their path. You indirectly refer to Somaliland as a one clan establishment whilst ignoring the fact that the longest serving President of Somaliland (for 2 terms and a total of 8 years) Dahir Riyale Kahin was from the Awdal region where I hail from and he was from a minority clan, yet he won the 2003 elections because of Somaliland’s democratic credentials which is indeed praiseworthy. Somaliland does genuinely hold free and fair elections as noted by countless international observers. However, Somaliland is not perfect and it does too suffer from problems within its democracy as proven by The Economist magazine’s classification of Somaliland as a somewhat flawed democracy. (See link http://www.economist.com/node/21551494). You claim that Ethiopia operates Somaliland’s security apparatus, however this is indeed flawed as Somaliland’s own military and police force are only accountable to the people and government. Somaliland is a nation dedicated to the rule of law and this is something to be emulated not lambasted.

    We Somalilanders always wish well on our fellow Somalis in Somalia, however it is contradictive for you to claim unity and reconciliation whilst simultaneously hoping for Somaliland to fragment and for the people’s genuine ambitions to be subjugated. Have you not learnt from the failures of the union of 1960-1991? You then try and compare Somaliland to the various mini states within Somalia, these mini-states such as Puntland all seek Federalism within Somalia whereas Somaliland seeks outright sovereignty so please let us not muddy the waters. These mini-states exist because the various failed Somalia governments (14 and counting so far) have failed to branch out of a few blocks within Mogadishu and have failed to provide much needed relief and services to its people, something the Somaliland government has achieved with little outside help for 21 years. I hope Somalia finds peace and does not succumb to the political paralysis that it has suffered over 21 years, however whether Somalia does well or not has little bearing on Somaliland. You fail to understand that even if Somaliland has to wait 100 years for recognition we stand by our path because recognition in our hearts is more important, the people of The Republic of Somaliland have spoken and they have decided on their path. It would indeed be more fruitful to exert your efforts in trying to find a just solution to the various failures that have afflicted Somalia and one day as two brotherly states we may be able to assist each other sincerely.

    I wish you a good day.

  • Clive Marshall

    I have just read a most splendid article on the case of Somaliland’s recognition and sovereignty bid.

    http://somalilandsun.com/index.php/in-depth/893-paper-the-case-of-somaliland

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Clive. You might be right in your description of the article (written in 2009.) But, three years are equivalent to life time in Somali politics. So much have changed per the reality on the ground….

      • yumoha

        Ambassador your article was beautiful written, but with only one intent, that of derailing forthcoming talks with your out of mandate TFG

      • yusuf

        The realities that change pertain to the TFG, which lives on a day to day basis as it scampers from Al-shabaab.
        As for somaliland, three years after the article, prevalent status read
        1. Silanyo government assumes power after democratic elections.
        2. International community acknowledges Somaliland at both the london and Istanbul conferences.
        3. Danes to open consulate in Hargeisa.
        4. USA initiates Dual Policy on Somaliland/Somalia thus separating the two countries
        Ambassador, During the same three years period after the Case for Somaliland article your TFG is known to have
        A. Sponsored the Khatuumo secessionists.
        B. Bribe traditional leaders from somaliland thus their participation in the Mogadishu constitutional conference. this is as a result of the TFG’s belief that without Somaliland it is moribund
        while you have a right to your opinion I would like to argue that the Title and content of your article have no relation at all.
        Lastly I am of the opinion that your office should be utilize to hasten the peaceful separation of the Somaliland and Somalia. For continued interferences and procrastination from your on the way out TFG might ignite some fires that southerners will live to regret

  • Abdirisaq

    Being a Djiboutian Citizen I am neutral in all this and to be honest I think that the citizens of Somaliland have every right to pursue the path they have chose, I can understand why Somalia and its citizens are against it, however, it has to be understood that simply referring to them as renegade secessionists will do nothing to preach unity. Rather as fellow Somalis have you ever considered that the Somaliland model is something to replicate in terms of grassroots state building and a genuine commitment to democracy. As everyone knows here in Djibouti democracy is non-existent and for that reason we should be supporting Somaliland’s achievements even if you do not agree with it instead of trying to paint Somaliland as a failure which is indeed unfair. Likewise Somalilanders need to show respect to their fellow brothers and sisters from Somalia and the South because just as God has blessed them with peace only God knows what the future holds and arrogance is indeed not appropriate.

    Trying to be objective all I can see in this article are that the author’s bias notions are entertained as this writer who has little knowledge of Somaliland and its dynamics has tried to subtly portray Somaliland as a hotbed of negativity when the truth could not be further.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Abdirisaq, for the feedback. I could be wrong, but, I don’t believe I tried to take away any one or a group’s legitimate grievance by alienating them and calling them “renegade secessionists”. That said, I believe, just like all other legitimate political causes, this too had its demagogues who cash on the sentiments generated by the conditions and misery of the people.

      As I said to Carlito earlier, Somaliland has accomplished a number of things that should all of us proud.

  • Guled

    God Bless Somaliland and Somalia.

    • Abukar Arman

      Amiin! Thank you, Guled.

  • Sadia Ali Aden

    Indeed “Somaliland” matters for a sustainable peace. And to achieve that peace, the narrative that persisted for the last 20 years should be corrected. You are right that there are five clans that live in Somaliland and as you have articulated well, three of those clans (regions) within it are against the secession and are for the unity of Somalia.

    But what is missing from your article is that all the clans who live in this region are represented in the current Transitional Federal Government’s (TFG) cabinet, parliament and other institutions based on the 4.5 clan formula giving them as good representation as other clans in the south.

    Peace,
    Sadia

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Sadia, for the feedback. I agree with you. On the other hand, I am sure you did not mean to imply that there are only five clans in that region as there are other minority clans who seldom get a mention in the political power-sharing circles let alone a consideration for specific share.

      • Sadia Ali Aden

        No, that is not what I am implying far from it. Minorities are abused and accused and always get the short end of any progress. But these minorities are not only in the north (Somaliland & Puntland) but they are also in the south. In fact, minorities who are presented in the 0.5 of the 4.5 clan formula are much more peaceful than those who are said to be in the majority. So, I am for the protection of all human rights and especially for those oppressed by the 4 major clans regardless of their geographical location. I hope that clarifies.

        Peace,
        Sadia

        • Abukar Arman

          Thank you, Sadia, for the clarification. You are right “…these minorities are not only in the north (Somaliland & Puntland) but they are also in the south.” Recently in Istanbul, I had the great pleasure of meeting Ugas Mohamed Bashir Ugas Hassan, the traditional leader of the Gabooye in the North. And Suldaan Ahmed Jaamac Hirsi (aka Ayyah Dhowre or the locust watcher) who described himself as “suldaanka dulmaneyaasha dad iyo dugaagba” or the Sultan of the oppressed (and lightheartedly added) in the human and animal kingdom.

          It is sad to say that the minority groups that they represent get a treatment that is worse than the untouchables of India. The latter at least have some form of constitutional protection on paper.

  • Mohamed Duale

    Firstly, I have to commend you on the rational and reasoned tone of your piece” Sustainable peace: why Somaliland matters”. However, I regret to say that some of your arguments are not only facile but actually devoid any merit. Although my country man Carlito has eloquently highlighted the important issues which you have ignored in your piece. Nevertheless, I would like to emphasize several important Points.

    1. Somaliland was refused to read the already drafted constitution and even make marginal proposals to it, and every prior agreement for merging the two countries was broken. Even the our version of the act of union, which we have passed in the “Somaliland State’s Legislative Council(LegCo) in Hargeisa”, was casually thrown away and a truncated version of only three(3) articles solely devised at the behest and for the benefit of the UN trust Territories of Somalia was passed in the National Assembly of the State of Somalia in Mogadishu. A pertinent fact which lawyers believe to this day completely invalidates the said union between the two states from the perspective of legal stand-point.
    2. The simple fact is that the people of SL are adamantly opposed to surrendering their sovereignty and they have no wish to be co-opted to rejoin the anarchy and misery prevalent in Somalia. The people of SL have deep empathy for the plight of their brothers to the south and they are ready and willing to assist in any genuine effort to find a solution to the crisis in Somalia. The fact that SL has welcomed, and continues to welcome, hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing the madness in their country is a clear testament of this empathy, even though the same international, humanitarian aid community, which conspires with the kleprocrats in Mogadishu to fleece the aid monies provided by international donors, categorises these refugees as IDPs
    3. Article 1 of the SL Constitution states:
    The country which gained its independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on 26th June 1960 and was known as the Somaliland Protectorate and which joined Somalia on 1st July 1960 so as to form the Somali Republic and then regained its independence by the Declaration of the Conference of the Somaliland communities held in Burao between 27th April 1991 and 15th May 1991 shall hereby and in accordance with this Constitution become a sovereign and independent country known as “The Republic of Somaliland”. While Article 2 states: Sovereignty resides in the people who shall exercise it in accordance with the Constitution and other laws.
    4. Therefore, Mr. Silanyo is not in a position to further the agenda of Somaliweyn, he is in fact required by the law of the land to actively and forcefully oppose it on pain of impeachment. Further, the near unanimous public antipathy in SL to any form of political union with Somalia would result in open revolt and widespread civil unrest in the country, should the Silanyo government be perceived as entertaining or supporting such a proposal.
    5. What is required from Somali Politicians, Academics is to work out lasting solution for their problems which is really addressing the underlying causes of their conflict. Somalis have to reconcile themselves by addressing hostilities and blood claims of the different communities, both inter-clan and intra clan. They have to acknowledge the failure of western policy in reconciling Somalia

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Mohamed, for the kind words and the feedback. I am not aware that Somaliland has requested to review the latest version of the draft constitution and was denied, but, if that happened it would not surprise me. Why? Because, I am embarrassed to say, the biggest controversy against the said constitution is the veil of secrecy it is shrouded with. Other than some selected members and representatives of the international community, only the six signatories who signed the Road Map have copies. The majority of Somalis–those who support the government and those who oppose it alike–oppose the lack of transparency with regard to the new constitution which, according to the Ghost-lords of Nairobi, has a price tag of more than $60 million.

      I have no comment on the rest.

    • Awdal Somali

      There was not a single Somali, both in British and Italian Somaliland, who had been able to contribute a single input or even participate
      the drafting of all the legal laws, including the constitutions, that were prepared before or was going to be prepared for the future to be in force both territories.
      Unfortunately both Somalia legislators were filled by ignorant Somalis whose first careers started as “cooks” later becoming merchants, businessmen, seamens, and the only elites were some “sheikhs” and “clerks” who may be able to read some Arabic and English texts. All the legal documents were prepared by non-Somalis, and even when you read the legal process British put together for British Somaliland and those prepared by the UN for Italian Somaliland to get ready for the independence and unite as on nation, every Somali will be shocked to see “odayadii Jaahiliinta” in both Somaliland and UN Trust Legislator how ignorant they were for what it means to gain independence and form a united Somalia. When I met most of them in 1970s and saw how they were not even able to be put two correct English or Italian sentences togher, I asked myself how unfortunate Somalis were to had those leaders in their most critical period. It is no wonder those ignorant former Somali leaders are also mainly responsible for the destruction and the suffering that Somalis are going through today.

      When it comes to the North, the same is also true in the South, the first Somali graduate with a Bachelor degree returned to British Somaliland just before the independence and even the first ever high school graduates, around 20 students, from the only British Somaliland high shcool were still overseas pursuing higher education in 1960. The only Somalis that British found to be capable of going through training under speedy Somalization system were mostly those men, called “BOYS”, who run away from the harsh life of camel herding, started learning English by working as cooks, wachmen, drivers, guards, etc, for the British and Indian colonial rulers, and later becoming “merchants.” Most of the Somali politicians in the South were also cooks for the Italian colonial rulers. Just see the background of Siad Barre, Aideed, Abdullahi Yusuf, etc. All of them were “Camel-Herders” whose career started as cooks and later, by learning some Italian through “Seeraale or Atlas” night schools, their Italian masters recommended to be put in schools in Italy tailored for the training of the future leaders of the newly independent Somalia. In the North, the propective leaders, mostly chosen from the former “cooks and clerks” acting now as “the elites” of the nation first went through ATLAS(SEERAALE)-ADULT Schools. Later some were sent to Sudan, Beirut, Britain, etc, for basic intensive administration training. It is no wonder those, who didn’t even go through proper high school, were the eyes and ears of both Southern and Northern Somalis. TO SAY THAT Somalis in the North were able to put a legislative for discussion and those in the South had the ability to know even how to put aside is nothing but assuming there were SOMALIS in the both parliament were competitive to know what was going on. That is far from the truth. Read the declassified documents in Italian and British archives to see what was going on in both British and Italian Somaliland rather than believing those entertaining themselves by claiming baseless superiority when comparing Somalis in British Somaliland with those in Italian Somaliland. The world is too smart to be fooled by those secessionists claiming that British Somaliland were recognized by some nations when all the declassified correspondence that took place between the two colonials, Italians and British, clearly show that there had been no need for the recognition of both British Somaliland and Italian Somalind since both of them will unite as a one nation. All the articles claiming otherwise are based “huuhaa” and “hearsay”.

  • Desert star

    To be honest I do think the author tried to be as objective as possible but unfortunately there were some bias notions that were entertained in your article. However, to be fair I myself am a Somalilander and if I was expected to write an article on Somalia and Somaliland it would be bias too, so it is something of a catch 22 for all of us Somalis to try and be truly objective.

    What I generally believe is that Somaliland and Somalia should establish dialogue together, however Somaliland’s sovereignty is non-negotiable.

    I just hope one day to see Somalia and Somaliland as two vibrant and friendly states to one another.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Desert Star, for the feedback.

  • Euro Jeff

    Mr Amran, you seem like an educated and rational man, I have one question for you regarding Somalia and Somaliland.

    Granted you do not agree with the Somaliland ideology, however do you not think that Somaliland offers a good example for Somalia to emulate in terms of governance and state building?

    I mean correct me if I am wrong but there has been something like 12 parachuted governments in Mogadishu with all of them having been dead on arrival , surely it would be good for academics to emulate Somaliland’s grassroots and organic state building especially considering that both peoples are the same and if Somaliland can do it, so too can Somalia.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Euro, for the feedback. Absolutely, in terms of good governance. There is a lot for the rest of Somalia to learn from Somaliland. However, in terms of “state building”, the question gets little murky therefore begs clarification as the Gohst-lords have, for a while, been pushing a concept designed to Balkanize Somalia and dissolve the State into three political entities known as Somaliland, Puntland, and South Central. http://www.themorningsidepost.com/2011/09/26/balkanization-and-subjugation-of-somalia/

      (With all due respect to my secessionist brothers and sisters) So far, there is one legal state called Somalia which retains a seat in the United Nations. While it is a failed state, failure is not a permanent status unless the people of that nation decide to make it so. Today, no objective trend-watcher can ignore the fact that the pendulum in a reverse course. And this, to me, is the perfect time for all issues to be re-evaluated and re-negotiated. I believe this is the only path to sustainable peace.

  • Mohamed Duale

    Firstly, I have to commend you on the rational and reasoned tone of your piece” Sustainable peace: why Somaliland matters”. However, I regret to say that some of your arguments are not only facile but actually devoid any merit. Although my country man Carlito has eloquently highlighted the important issues which you have ignored in your piece. Nevertheless, I would like to emphasize several important Points.

    1. Somaliland was refused to read the already drafted constitution and even make marginal proposals to it, and every prior agreement for merging the two countries was broken. Even the our version of the act of union, which we have passed in the “Somaliland State’s Legislative Council(LegCo) in Hargeisa”, was casually thrown away and a truncated version of only three(3) articles solely devised at the behest and for the benefit of the UN trust Territories of Somalia was passed in the National Assembly of the State of Somalia in Mogadishu. A pertinent fact which lawyers believe to this day completely invalidates the said union between the two states from the perspective of legal stand-point.
    2. The simple fact is that the people of SL are adamantly opposed to surrendering their sovereignty and they have no wish to be co-opted to rejoin the anarchy and misery prevalent in Somalia. The people of SL have deep empathy for the plight of their brothers to the south and they are ready and willing to assist in any genuine effort to find a solution to the crisis in Somalia. The fact that SL has welcomed, and continues to welcome, hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing the madness in their country is a clear testament of this empathy, even though the same international, humanitarian aid community, which conspires with the kleprocrats in Mogadishu to fleece the aid monies provided by international donors, categorises these refugees as IDPs
    3. Article 1 of the SL Constitution states:
    The country which gained its independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on 26th June 1960 and was known as the Somaliland Protectorate and which joined Somalia on 1st July 1960 so as to form the Somali Republic and then regained its independence by the Declaration of the Conference of the Somaliland communities held in Burao between 27th April 1991 and 15th May 1991 shall hereby and in accordance with this Constitution become a sovereign and independent country known as “The Republic of Somaliland”. While Article 2 states: Sovereignty resides in the people who shall exercise it in accordance with the Constitution and other laws.
    4. Therefore, Mr. Silanyo is not in a position to further the agenda of Somaliweyn, he is in fact required by the law of the land to actively and forcefully oppose it on pain of impeachment. Further, the near unanimous public antipathy in SL to any form of political union with Somalia would result in open revolt and widespread civil unrest in the country, should the Silanyo government be perceived as entertaining or supporting such a proposal.
    5. What is required from Somali Politicians, Academics is to work out lasting solution for their problems which is really addressing the underlying causes of their conflict. Somalis have to reconcile themselves by addressing hostilities and blood claims of the different communities, both inter-clan and intra clan. They have to acknowledge western policy failure in reconciling their differences.

    • Abukar Arman

      This is a duplicate post. Please refer to the earlier response above.

  • Rafiq

    Somalia’s reason for being the worlds’ only state is because of the Western and foreign imposition of a government for Somalia throughout the last 2 decades. Sadly often these governments as exemplified by the current TFG fail to secure their country or to provide basic services to its people.

    I do not know too much about Somaliland, but from what I understand it was an organic process which has led to their relative stability and good governance.

    Peace

    • Abukar Arman

      That you, Rafiq, for the feedback. You are right in your assumption “…it was an organic process which has led to their relative stability and good governance.” No one can take that away from them, but when it comes to sustainability it is a whole different story. Peace.

  • Suleiman Xuquuq

    According to the many international and local experts on Somalia/Somaliland politics knows the nomination of Abukar Arman, as to be Somalia’s Transitional Federal Government (TFG) special envoy to the United States, was materialized through corruption.

    Secondly, his offensive commentary against the sovereignty of Somaliland which he posted on 13 June 2012 titled Sustainable Peace: Why Somaliland Matters is prove his ignorance towards the failed and non exist country which he represent as special envoy in the United State.

    I just would like to put his attention that the international community knows more then what he knows in Somalia and Somaliland political realities, and decided to see Somalia and Somaliland at different eyes: over 55 world leaders together with Secretary-General of the United Nations has jointly understand that whit out solving the problems between Somalia and Somaliland would not be possible to solve dramatic issues of the former failed State of Somalia than over 53 world top leaders decided to add the final communiqué of Somali London Conference in the following important article of 6:

    6. The Conference recognised the need for the international community to support any dialogue that Somaliland and the TFG or its replacement may agree to establish in order to clarify their future relations.

    Any intellectual person who graduated even a secondary school can’t thought that Ethiopian government has drafted the article 6 of final communiqué of Somali London Conference and it has press on the world leaders who attended the Somali London conference to accept. If the writer of commentary article of Sustainable Peace: Why Somaliland Matters thinks that Ethiopian government has used the world leaders to inforce it hidden agenda your are nothing

    • Johnny boy

      Although I as a proud Somalilander disagree with the gentleman’s conclusions and obvious disguised contempt for Somaliland, I do not think it is appropriate for anyone to personally attack him as he stated his genuine opinion which he has a God given right to whether we agree with it or not. I do think that he tried to limit controversy as much as possible in his article, although I do still have a problem with the way he indirectly refers to Somaliland as an unsustainable and dead project. But he is within hes rights especially considering he wants a re-unified Somalia with Mogadishu as the capital once again. No cake Somaliland is here to stay.

      Nevertheless he is within his rights, it is time for us as Somalis wherever we may be to debate in a logical and rational way.

      All the best for Somaliland and Somalia.

      • Abukar Arman

        Thank you, Johnny boy, for your kindness and civility.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you for the feedback, Suleiman Xuquuq. Peace!

  • Abdilqadir Awbile

    I believe Mr Abukar Arman is an intellectual who at least is willing to listen and understand the plight and agony of people of Somaliland. Unfortunately many Somalis from the South unlike him are even to this day denying the atrocities carried out by Somalia’s Siad Barre regime in Somaliland more than twenty years ago. I would like to remind everyone that it was the desire of our citizens in Somaliland that formed the whole Somali Union. If these same people wish otherwise today then nothing can stop them achieving their full freedom. Somalia’s leaders should show a true leadership by accepting and respecting our people’s aspirations.

    Somalis no matter where they are share so many things and these are always being overlooked. Had we considered beyond present day’s politics and based our strategic decisions way beyond tomorrow we could have saved future generations from the great depression we are in today.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Abdilqadir Awbile, for the kind words and feedbck.

      I could not agree more, “Had we considered beyond present day’s politics and based our strategic decisions way beyond tomorrow we could have saved future generations from the great depression we are in today.”
      So, what is in the best strategic interest of roughly 10 million people whose identities are intertwines and survival needs are interdependent?

  • Aden Gesi

    Had this article not been mentioned in Amb. Shinn’s blog I would not have given it any credit. Why no credit? Simply because no matter how hard the writer has tried to avoid a partisan piece, he is a unionist at heart. What is useful about this article is Amb. Shinn’s endorsement of it and therefore can be interpreted to represent US policy.
    Abukar Arman completely misses the point. He seems to think Somaliland is about secessionism. This is simply wrong even the SNM did no have such a policy. Instead Somaliland’s overriding interest has always been about securing peace in the region. I as a Somalilander also know if peaceful coexistence can be guaranteed through a unified state then most Somalilanders would have no issue with that. The big question is can this be guaranteed in the current circumstance? I think not.

    • Bobby

      I do agree with you that we as Somalilanders should learn to be more rational and be able to engage in intellectual debates which off little room for personal attacks or emotional monologues. However, you are right that the SNM never intended secession and it was only after they saw Southerners (Mahdi and Aideed) jostling for power did they realize that as the last 30 years have shown the Northerners would get little from the union if they stayed. Yet it was the 1991 peace conference in Burao and the especially important 1993 Boorama conference that Somaliland was re-created. But the important thing to remember is that the majority of the clans in the region supported it and even more crucially the majority of the populace supported it.

      I am a Somalilander and a pragmatist and understand that it would be inaccurate for me to say that all within Somaliland support the project, nevertheless it is inaccurate of these so called intellectuals to not realize that evidence has shown that the majority within Somaliland do. But what irks me about respected intellectuals from the South is the way in which despite Somaliland’s achievements they insistently want to see it as a dead, sustainable and divided project. I mean if you were truly a unionist why would you want civil strife to occur in Somaliland, for the good of the union? Would you destroy something just so that you can have it If these intellectuals actually realized that Somalilanders have genuine grievances and genuine aspirations then we would have gotten much farther with dialogue.

      Also, another issue exists here, many from Somaliland (not all) have adopted Somaliland as their political, national identity (referring to themselves as Somalilanders) I mean if truth be told I am a young man and have no allegiance to the blue and white flag simply because I was born after 1991. What do we do with these people who have mature political identities, do we just tell them the blue and white flag is yours and Mogadishu is your capital once again. It really is a strange state of affairs. Personally, I think that Somaliland has to carry on with what it is doing and I sincerely hope that Somalia finds its peace and former glory, however it would be wise for both of us to assist each other instead of trying to discredit and meddle in each others affairs.

      Puntland want federalism to prop up their powerbase and to be honest they have a good point, being that for Somalia to exist people are always obsessed with a centralization of power in Mogadishu at the expense of other cities, it is perhaps this that has caused the devestation that has existed in Mogadishu for 20 years or so. Whereas those from Somalia want a repeat of the union from 1960-1990s which is a Somali state with Mogadishu at the forefront and at the head. Looking at the political scene it is obvious that for Somaliland reunification does not really pose any benefits nor is it in the people’s desires, rather recocilliation and good neighbourly ties should be sought between both peoples as we are fellow Somalis.

      To the author I can see that you tried to avoid controversy in your article but sadly it was a sinking ship from the get go. This is no fault of your own but rather the subject topic. I mean can you imagine if I wrote a pessimistic article on how Somalia is doomed to fail post Aug 20, I would quite rightly be criticized by Somalia’s citizens because it is a case of me discrediting the country, you my friend found yourself in the same situation. Of course I support Somaliland’s sovereignty hence the reason why I am responding likewise in the same manner that you wish to revert Somalia’s sovereignty and reach to what it was pre 1991 hence the reason you wrote this article.

      I am awaiting the next generation of Somaliland political leaders that will not be tainted by tribalism or past discourses about past grievances. Contrary to Mr Amran’s article I do believe that Somaliland is a sustainable project and I believe that as citizens we need to move away from the discourses of the past and at the same time prepare to build up our country and to protect its sovereignty.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Aden Gesi, for the feedback. “Peaceful coexistence” with ourselves and with our neighbors is a good starting point.

  • Daacad

    Can you please look at this clip of video, which based on the facts?. Because, the Speaker, Dr. Edna Adam Ismail – Former wife of a former Somali Prime minister in the 1960s – was present at a time that Abukar Arman didn’t exist, even his parents didn’t get married. So, you can asses who is explaining the fact, a person who is talking about a history that he was not aware of or just heard/read OR a person who was present and involved that kind of unity? ITS UP TO YOUR MIND! http://www.youtube.com/​watch?v=4a_tg6V4LK0&feature​=player_embedded

    • Aden Gesi

      Why bother to post a youtube clip? defeats the point of discussion.
      For what it matters Edna Ismael is not a Dr. Secondly she is a secessionist extremist. Most Somalilanders are pragmatists. As previously pointed out the Somali National Movement was just that the Somali National Movement. If it was a secessionist from origin it would have been called the Somaliland National Movement. The secessionist movement in principal was borne out as a result of the continued civil unrest in the South which makes it impossible up to now to reform back to the Somali Republic. I personally support this stance because it is a rational one.

      • Hargeisawi-In-London

        @Aden,

        You say, “[s]econdly she[Edna] is a secessionist extremist. Most Somalilanders are pragmatists”. Really? The overwhelming majority of Somalilanders are with Edna on this. They would rather go to hell than go back to the now defunct union. This is a fact that sends shivers down your spine, the anti-Somaliland camp folks.

        One more, thing you can pretend that you are from Somaliland, but I am afraid, your two postings have blown your cover.

        • Aden Gesi

          @Hargeisawi-In-London – I am not anti Somaliland, I am anti war and anti suffering of innocence. I am a product of the Somaliland struggle, as a child I was there and lost direct family members in the civil war. My father was a political prisoner. It was my relatives who shed blood to fight against the Siad barre regime. I am telling you the facts. SNM did not start the struggle as a secessionist movement. What you don’t understand is that there are politicians who directly benefit from being secessionist because it pays the bills. Are you seriously telling me that it is practical and right to start a new front in the war for the sole purpose of a Somaliland state? The only reason Somaliland is there today is because of its desire above all to foment peace in the region. If a Somali union is able to deliver the same objective then Somalilanders will support it.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Daacad, for the feedback. You are right, Dr Edna, as one of Somalia’s first post-colonial midwives, could’ve delivered me. She was a colleague of my Mother in Law, may God bless her soul. Politics aside, I have a great respect for her. As a kid, in the early 70s, I used to play soccer behind her famous pharmacy in Mogadishu. Also, in 1999, at the Somali Studies International conference held in Toronto, I was in the audience sitting with a friend who is a medical doctor when she presented her “dream project”, building a hospital in Hargaisa “for all Somalis”- a news that got her standing ovation. My Dr friend whispered to me that she wanted to become the first Somali doctor to volunteer her services for three months. I encouraged her to announce it publicly so it would inspire others. She was too shy to stand in front of several hundred people and make the announcement, so she commissioned me to do it. So I did.

      Since then, as you are well aware, Edna became a politician…and the rest I shall leave it to history!

  • Daacad

    SORRY, THIS IS THE LINK OF THE VIDEO: (COPY AND PASTE ON INTERNET BROWSER) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a_tg6V4LK0&feature=player_embedded

    • Abukar Arman

      Daacad, I hate to say this: though I expected the jingoistic theatrics, I never expected the inflammatory rhetoric. The latter might galvanize certain demagogues and merchants of hate in the South. Certain portion of her presentation was simply ill-advised and ill-timed.

  • Caraale

    I must say this was a good article. I am myself originally from waqooyi burco. I hate siad barre nad what he did, but i dont take it out on my fellow Somalis. We must forgive eachother and promote walaaltimo. Imshallah!

    Thanks for the great article, it warms my heart!

    • Guled

      Yes I agree. I think Siad Barre was one of the worst things to happen to the Somali people. Nevertheless, I have never held the people fromSouth Central Somalia to be accountable for his crimes as that would be unfair.

      However, as a Somalilander I do believe that it seems as if many from Somalia have this mentality of; we own you, you are going nowehere. When it comes to Somaliland, especially their political elites and intellectuals.
      Indeed it is imperative for all of us Somalis to forgive and reconcile. However, I still see Somaliland as my country and I do not see that as a contradiction, you can be a Somali nationalist and still be a Somalilander.

      Djiboutian Somalilander or a citizen of Somalia, these are all political and nationalistic, yet at the end of the day we are the same people. It really is that simple, poltically we may be different, but in every other way we are the same.

      • caraale

        Im sorry walaal, but your idea is to promote division and prevent unity. I cannot agree with that. My reer abti was part of SNM, but even they understand that unity is better for division, this was why SNM was formed!

        end.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Caraale, for the feedback, kind words, and counsel. Indeed, “We must forgive each other and promote walaaltinimo (brotherhood/sisterhood).

  • Hassan Heiss

    Somaliland, whether one accepts it or not, is here to stay. As correctly pointed out out elsewhere, Somaliland is neither clan-based nor a run-away particle of a larger whole. It is simple the ‘whole’ since it arrived first, raised its flag first, took the initiative to hoist up a little brother up first, and got its house right again, first.

    Somalia can better earn Somaliland hearts by acknowledging that its that little brother who should be looking up to the elder brother with respect. Somalia should cease once for all to seeing itself as the owner/occupier of Somaliland. It never did and never would – and this kind of attitude only highlights what went wrong with the unification in the first place, with Greater Somalia (including Djibouti, NFD and Ogadenia) and with that with Somaliland.

    Wake up, Somalia! You are losing for ever the only brother you ever had this way!

    • Bobby

      Could not have said it any better myself. An apt analogy by the way

      • Abukar Arman

        Thank you, Bobby.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Hassan, for the feedback. No one is (can) tell Somaliland to cease and desist. It is a question of can we have civil discourse on what is in our collective best interest. For now (names aside) we are all in the same boat.

  • Olu

    I guess we are much too polarized us Somalis, especially those that pledge allegiance to Somalia and Somaliland respectively.

    Mr Amran you have to realize that it is not feasible for you to discount the Somaliland project as the truth be told is something concrete and the fact it has existed this long shows there is some sort of support for it and to be fair these people have shown a genuine commitment to democracy, rule of law and development.

    Secondly, Somalilanders need to understand that Somalis from Somalia and the South can not be expected to let go of Somaliland so easily as they see it as both their country and part and parcel of their future.

    What I find is that both sides are right and wrong simultaneously. You can not expect one side to be more morally correct than the other as they are both polarized solutins. Perhaps we need new debates and shifting paradigms to discuss.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Olu, for the feedback. You said it well, “Perhaps we need new debates.”

  • Alinoor

    I always believed (still believe) that Somaliland can lead Somalia to the greater path of nationalism. It is my understanding that Somaliland took their sovereignty to Mogadishu to share with their brethren the joy of independence. I hope now time is ripe for Mogadishu to replicate the 1960 fine gesture of brotherhood. To Somalilanders, united we stand divided we fall! Think and believe in One Great Somalia!

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Alinoor, for the feedback. Yours is a noble proposition. You are on the same page with some of the leading opinion-makers from the South such as Prof Afyare Elmi. However, even that can only come through a process of negotiation.

  • Awdal boy

    Mr Amran you can try and speak for the Dhulbahante clan if you will, but in my home region of Boorama, Awdal rgion the majority of the inhabitants are pro Somaliland. I mean why would we destroy something that we help build (see 1993 Boorama Conference). Also, we had the longest serving Somaliland president in history; Dahir Riyale Kahin.

    I never try and speak for the Harti clans in Somaliland. This is because I do not know their allegiances nor is it right of me to act as their mouthpiece. So why do you insist on trying to speak for the inhabitants of Boorama etc when you indirectly claim that the Gadarbuusi clan do not support the Somaliland dream, we support it as much as the Isaaq clan if not more considering the foundations and preseverance that we put into its creation.

    This Awdal state was an organization that some diaspora people started and although popular on youtube and facebook it has no ground support in the Awdal region whatsoever. I twas started when Dahir Riyale Kahin lost the election in 2010 by some opportunists. I mean just watch any videos of May 18th celebrations and you will see that it is Boorama where the most passionate May 18th rallies happen.

    So please I urge all you so called Southern intellectuals to stop trying to talk for the people of Awdal in Somaliland. I nor my fellow Somalilanders every try to talk for the TFG or Puntland so please with due respect you do not represent our hopes and dreams.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Awdal boy, for the feedback. Peace!

  • BossasoBrian

    Mr Amran, in many of your writings you oppose the US dual track policy or any international assistance for Somaliland or Puntland.

    So what are the people of these states expected to do, starve to death, fall deeper into poverty until a string Mogadishu emerges?

    It really begs belief that Southern intellectuals want to have their cake and eat it to. You do not want the US dual track policy to be implemented, meaning inadvertently you do not want them to be able to develop or to alleviate policy. Especially considering the fact that US and international funds to these regions are usually in the form of food aid or developmental assistance and rarely due to military assistance due to the ongoing arms embargo. So back to it intellectuals such as Mr Amran want to eat their cake too whereby they want only Mogadishu to taste the fruits of development and prosperity whilst the others do not. Talk about such a xaasid philosophy.

    By the way I am from Puntland and couldn’t care less about Somaliland, except that they give back our regions since those people are Darood and thus belong to the noble state of Puntland. Somaliland will soon be dead and its people will be back being lackeys in the union again , by hook or by crook.

    But Mr Amran you and your ilk are just as bad as these sesecionists in my eyes.

    • Abukar Arman

      Tank you, Bossasso Brain, for the feedback. Peace!

  • Ali

    Although I do not agree with Mr Amran’s article I respect his opinion but we as Somalis or Somalilanders need to understand our limitations and lack of objectivity.

    You stated: “There is a growing trend of the revered cultural elders or clan leaders breaking ranks with the official secessionist position after realizing the infeasibility of that political enterprise. Some have even gone public with their new views.”

    The truth be told there are some within elites in Somaliland that are against sessecion, but for you to try and paint an inaccurate picture of the majority would be wrong and shows bias. Imagine if I had said that the majority of Somalis in Mogadishu support Somaliland’s indepdnence, that too would be fallacious. In fact one of your own fellow MPs (The Minister of Interior) in the TFG recently expressed support for Somaliland’s independence (http://wardheernews.com/Articles_2011/Nov/18_tfg_somaliland_hassan.html). Therefore, it sounds rather unnerving for you to state what Somalilanders believe or do not believe in the same way it would be equally incorrect of me.

    Mr Amran I accept tthat I do have some bias in favour of Somaliland, but I genuinely know this. My only problem is that Mr Amran you are trying to portray yourself as someone with an objective viewpoint on Somaliland to the international community of academics and writers. However, in reality you just like all Somalis (whether from Somaliland, Puntland etc) still entertain various bias in your article. And yet you do not seem to accept this. If I was to write an article on Somalia I would accept that it would be influenced somewhat by own lack of objectivity.

    I fully understand that at times many Somalilanders come across as the most partisan and I do believe this is a problem. However, likewise you should recognize your own limitations when it comes to objectivity in this heated topic. But to be fair this is better than the other straight Somaliland demonization that you get from those opinion pieces by so called unionist intellectuals.

    Nevertheless, I believe dialogue is most definately the way forward for Somaliland and Somalia,.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Ali, for the feedback”…for you to try and paint an inaccurate picture of the majority would be wrong and shows bias”. I don’t know how you deduced this from my quote above! I said there is a growing trend…but I never said any thing about who is the majority.

      That said, I agree with you that “…dialogue is most definately the way forward for Somaliland and Somalia”.

  • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

    I admire the way that the Somalilanders responded. Using reason and rationality is what really distinguishes you from the rest of the Somalis. Look at Arman’s best rational for distruction of the Somaliland’s major cities and the genocide that the Siad Barre regime committed against “his own people”. This how Arman has rationalized the fighter jets that took off from Hargeisa to demolish Hargeisa and bombarded its tax-paying-citizens! and I quote “Though the said campaign was against the SNM whose main agenda was to recall the Act of the Union signed shortly after the founding of the new nation, in the process, it greatly affected various communities in that region.” SNM was the force that got Siad in to confusion and attacked only the military bases. It is in the history books and most of the internatiol human right bodies covered it well that more than 60,000 fleeing civilians were killed within 1988. The aftermath suffering of the following years were countless as cities that existed for centuries old cities were looted. I am a Somalilander and the only thing that could make me forgive Somalia for lost the centimental values of my great grandmother’s pictures of her childhood is acknowledgement those crimes against me and my people. Can you bring the weding photoes of my parents and grandparents. If you think as you said time has healed Somalilanders, honestly you get to be joking. I save my historical treasure in way that past experience thought me for my generations to come. Becouse of the ways of Somalia’s past and present political immaturity we both suffered. Djibouti didn’t. We movedon and mended my wounds. I hope Somalia pulls together. History forgotten is doomed to repeat. I like Somalia liberate itself from humilation of being failed and forieng occupied state.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Ahmed, for the feedback. I was not in any way trying to minimize what happened to my brothers and sisters in the North. If you read the entire article you would have known that I was not in any way trying to sanitize the evil that was carried by the military regime against its people in 1988. It was simply a crime against humanity. If the ICC was set to prosecute cases dating that far, I would have openly called for their prosecution. I am sorry. My most heart-felt apology goes to you and all the people of the North who were directly or indirectly hurt by that vicious campaign.

  • Khatumo Man

    As far as I am concerned “Somaliland” in name, in concept, and in any other facet is nothing short of anathema. A Somali adage goes: “xoolo kaa cararayaa la soo ceshadaa, ee dad kaa cararaye lama soo ceshado.” Issaq clan can take whatever land they inhabit and call any name they want, especially an abhorrent one such as “Somaliland”, which sounds a name that pays homage to colonial masters.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Khatumo man, for the feedback. But, I do not think this is a healthy way to engage.

      Provocations only beget the same or worse!

  • Baidoa Boy

    I have excited your valuable article and then can’t read intire article, I would recomend to shorten your valuable article that will make meaningfull and can easily read, on the side of seperation of Somaliland, I think after several attempts to get to be recognized with powerfull popularity now with metigated and isolated clan it will not work longer, I afraid that clan to loose it is historic page in the Somali people, I am sure that all states are based on forigner interests not the Somali domestic needs and will not succeed any more, first let them allow us to be stable next step will be showing them unity and strong Somali nation which has a clear voice in all Africa!!

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Baidoa Boy, for the feedback.

  • Mohamed Duale

    Thank you for your reply but I regret to say that you did not capture the pivotal point of my argument which was explaining “the Union that Somaliland had with Somali Italiana in 1960. My point was that Somaliland was refused in 1960 to read and say anything about the constitution in 1960. I was not totally referring the so called constitution in Somalia now. That really shows the distrust and dishonest of Southern Politicians and Somalilanders will never trust again your people

    • Abukar Arman

      Sorry for the misunderstanding. However, you are not saying that the first national constitution adopted in 1961 in a countrywide referendum was not seen by the North, are you?

  • M0_Burco

    Lol, As i was reading this article and have respect for anyone s opinion( biased or not) i just cant stop laughing how somali people start fighting each other even on a simple forum. Come on man, @ bossaobrian, do you even think before you say or write something. I understand that many countries in africa and elsewhere would love to have peace and stability as in Somaliland. So if you are so proud and nationalistic about Puntland , thats ok but dont wish dead upon your other brothers and sisters in Islam. Try to be a bit more mature.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Mo_Burco, for the feedback. However, as I told bossasso brain, it behooves us to keep the debate civil and productive. Many tanks.

  • Feysal

    Abukar Arman came a long way, so he should be commended. IMO, he framed his article in a way that is conducive to dialogue and discussion, albeit his bias. I am also impressed by his responses to the comments. However, as one of the commentators indicated, Somalia’s pundits like to paint Somaliland as an Isaq project, but facts on the ground indicate otherwise. Specially, those who try to box things into a clan prism, like Abukar did, are dead wrong. Neither Silanyo nor any other politician can reverse Somaliland’s independence, only the people can (thru referendum), and we are far away from that happening. Somalia should first get its acts together.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Feysal, for the feedback. I agree with you “Neither Silanyo nor any other politician can reverse Somaliland’s (claimed) independence, only the people can (thru referendum), and we are far away from that happening.” That said, I am optimistic as a result of the positive wind of change blowing across the land. The fact that we are having this discussion is a case in point.

  • Neima

    Nice discussion. I can only admire the way Somalilanders have responded to Mr Arman giving him credit for showing good will but at the same time criticizing his arguments firmly.
    It shows Somalilanders have gained a democratic culture in the last 20 years. I don’t see that in Southerners whenever Somaliland is concerned. Instead it is blind hate and insults I read on the net.

    We Djiboutians have first doubted Somaliland’s sucess in the 90s but gradually saw what the people of that country have accomplished. Even our president, IOG has turned the page and greeted the president of Somaliland on his election.
    The government from Somalia must publically recognize the wrongs done to the people of the North and realize they have forced Somaliland out of the union. Our IOG has worked with Afar rebels after fighting them first in 1992. He was smart enough to grasp he coudn’t win by crushing a portion of the country. THat was what the Barre regime has missed.

    What also strucks me about the typical Southerners is they want to keep Somaliland while not being truthful on its accomplishments. Somaliland saved its people from a brutal regime, reconciled diverse clans and its leaders had the vision that Southerners lacked.

    Actually Mr Youssuf is the fairest Southerner I have read or heard but there is still a long way to go.

    I am very proud of being Djiboutian and very grateful to Hassan Guled and other leaders for saving us from a union with anarchic Somalia. I hope our leaders will learn from Somaliland peaceful democratic process.

    We Djiboutians have first doubted Somaliland’s sucess in the 90s but gradually saw what the people of that country have accomplished. Even our president, IOG has turned the page and greeted the president of Somaliland on his election.
    The government from Somalia must publically recognize the wrongs done to the people of the North and realize they have forced Somaliland out of the union. Our IOG has worked with Afar rebels after fighting them first in 1992. He was smart enough to grasp he coudn’t win by crushing a portion of the country. THat was what the Barre regime has missed.

    What also strucks me about the typical Southerners is they want to keep Somaliland while not being truthful on its accomplishments. Somaliland saved its people from a brutal regime, reconciled diverse clans and its leaders had the vision that Southerners lacked.

    Actually Mr Youssuf is the fairest Southerner I have read or heard but there is still a long way to go.

    I am very proud of being Djiboutian and very grateful to Hassan Guled and other leaders for saving us from a union with anarchic Somalia. I hope our leaders will learn from Somaliland peaceful democratic process.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Neima, for the feedback. Somalis are forever indebted to the Djiboutian and leadership (past and present) in the positive role that they have been playing in the past two decades.

  • Omar A Aden

    Brother Arman,
    As we come to expect, this is another balanced, enlighten and well written article.
    I remembered, Saving Maandeeq conference in DC, we were discussing the issue of North Vs South, and in our table, we had a die heard Somalilinder, and hardcore unionist.This is my observation of that discussion and many others like that.
    I think whenever we talk about this issue, we do more talking than listening to each others point view. If we change this, I don’t know how , but certainly we will be in our way to resolve it once for all. How can we make an active listening a part of the equation?
    Thanks

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Omar, for the feedback and kind words. I do remember that episode, and I share your assessment.

      Per your question, I don’t think there is a magic formula. We would have to work hard at it as our collective survival and progress depend on it. We would need to come up with the right intention, right attitude, and a great deal of patience with the process. Imam Shafi’i used to engage his interlocutors with this attitude: “My understanding is correct though it carries certain probabilities of being incorrect; and my opposition’s understanding is incorrect though it carries certain probabilities of being correct.”

  • Ali Harun

    Carlito
    You recycle the same old trite that the majority of the people of Somaliland chose to secede from Somalia in a referendum in 2001 and you give the figure of 97%. First of all, the question of majority decision does not arise in the case of Somaliland. It arises in a country first accepted as their country by all its people and then recognised as such by the international community. The concept of majority decision will therefore not apply to Somaliland but to Somalia where when a vote is taken on a specific issue, such as the constitution, the decision of the majority of the voters is accepted as binding. In the case of the renegade secessionist enclave calling itself Somaliland, it is an illegal entity espoused by one clan and disowned by every other clan in the north and the rest of Somalia, not to mention the rest of the world. That is why none of the 4 unionist clans and regions in the north participated in the referendum or in all of Somaliiland’s electionis. As such, it is not surprising that a vote confined to the secessionist supporters hailing from the Isaaq clan mastered 97%. The four unionist clans in the region had nothing do with this referendum because they do not belong to the secession or accept the legality of Somaliland. It is the other way: The people of Somalia, including Somaliland, should vote on the issue of secession and if the majority support it, then the Isaaq clan, which is the only one which want to secede, can go. It does not apply to others who are legally part of Somalia and who wish to remain in Somalia

    Your fellow secessionist Mohamed Dualeh goes into mumbo-jumbo about Somaliland’s independence legality. If that was the case, it would have been recognised long ago. Not even Ethiopia to whom the enclave was put at its disposal is willing to do that. And now the international community has made it clear where it stands on the unity of Somalia. The latest declaration of the Istanbul Conference on Somalia pledges the support for Somalia’s unity and territorial integrity.

    And who is in the forefront now to end the secession? None other than Great Britain,hitherto considered by the clan as their God father. The Brits, always known for their hard-nosed self-interest, are now leading the effort to end the secession ( see today’s Qarannews and Siilaanyo’s meeting with the heads of the three leading political parties in which he told them in no unmistakable terms that Britain of all countries is pushing for ending the secession). A one-clan secessionist enclave in the most barren part of Somalia is unsustainable. Even Siilaanyo, normally the most myopic visionless leader, has at last ealised that the game is up. The sooner this is realised, the better we can start the work of building Somalia again.

    • Carlito

      And here we go, a typical spite driven and inaccurate critique against Somaliand. Right man I am going to enjoy debunking your arguments. Firstly, The referendum of 2001 that I mentioned was internationally applauded as free and fair, here is the link to the observers’ report (http://www.dennis.polhill.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/final-somaliland-report-7-24-01-combined.pdf). Furthermore, you then state that none of the other non-Isaaq clans in the North supported the Somaliland project as proven by elections. Well I hate to break it to you but figures have shown that the Awdal region along with Haregisa usually had the highest voter turnout and the fact is that the Western clans in Somaliland are fully integrated in Somaliland politically, I would know as me and my family hail from there. I do not have to repeat that the longest serving Somaliland president Dahir Riyale Kahin was from a non-isaaq clan. You then make the laughable claim that for Somaliland’s self determination to be recognized then a referendum or decision has to be taken by everyone in Somalia, which you and I know full well will result in the subjugation of Somalilander’s wishes as Somalia has double the population of Somaliland. Also, it makes no rational sense that a region seeking self determination would have their future held hostage by the parent state (in this case Somalia) I mean there was a reason why South Sudan citizens alone voted on its referendum and not Sudan’s citizens. This is because the international community understood that it can not allow the South Sudanese peoples self determination to be held hostage and likewise we will not allow Somalia to hold us hostage. Therefore, your comment shows just how rudimentary your knowledge is of international politics or relations. In addition, you then state that the Istanbul Conference recognizes Somalia’s unity and I do not disagree with you on that, but my answer is who the hell are the Turkish to us Somalilanders other than fellow Muslim brothers. They may be your saviors (and I do help they continue to help Somalia for decades) but to us they are just another Muslim country, they have no control or no sovereignty over us, neither do the British. For your information the British and the Americans do not oppose nor support Somaliland, rather they clearly stated that it has to be resolved in an African context (meaning AU or talks with Somalia). You then refer to where we live Somaliland as a barren part of Somalia, so I ask the question if we are barren and renegade traitors why do you insist on trying to force us to re-join Somalia? Surely you people make me laugh sometimes. You then refer to Silanyo as a visionless leader which is your opinion to be fair, however he is the only democratically elected leader in the horn of Africa and a lack of vision does not win you a democratic election in an African country. Finally, having ridiculed and belittled Somaliand’s achievements you then have the audacity to say in your final sentence we need to start the building of Somalia. Indeed such a surreal state of affairs. People from Somalia claim to want unity and whats best for all Somalis yet you belittle and demonize Somaliland and then state come back to the union and then you’re okay. It reminds me of the personality of a schizophrenic, one minute angry the next conciliatory. What I see is that people from Somalia just want Somaliland to assist Somalia become a great country again (which is understandable) but then when Somaliland does the same thing (building up its country and providing services to its people) you wish for it to fail and are engulfed in anger. Surely you should wish for yourself what you wish for your brother. Somalilanders generally want what is best for our fellow Somali brothers and wish them all the best, there is no interest in Mogadishu burning for us, rather as fellow peoples we want Mogadishu to be as great as it was. However, we have chosen our path, the people of Somaliland’s oath and consolidated it so why isit you have so much ill will for us?

      Although I do not agree with Mr Amran at least Mr Amran has the hallmarks of an intellectual who does somewhat understand that demonizing Somaliland outright will not lead to union. You on the other hand and the majority of Southern Somalis I have come across always wish evil on Somaliland and exhibit naked hatred and jealousy. Here is what I say to you all, leave this phantom-limb philosophy and if you want dialogue at least show us the respect that the people of Somaliland deserve (not so much the diaspora) as this was an indegineous path taken by them. The sooner you realize that Somaliland is a legitimate process and a people power project then we can discuss that which we have shared mutual benefits and brotherly ties.
      God Bless and have mercy on Somaliland and Somalia.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Ali, for the feedback.

  • axmed

    ido’t believe we can trust the southerner. And I don’t want to believe. As mr mentions Khatumo and other opponents of somaliland , I say he is upto to the old tricks of his war lord friends, telling somalilander that we can’t make because we may have tribal wars or limited resources. let me tell you something mr. Arman. The southerners have more trible problems then we do. Wait for the the people of lower shabelle and upper shabelle to demand their rights.
    somaliland will succeed by doing right of all of its citizens. The union with southern somali failed. we should look to our brothers in jabouti. They don’t want a uion with somalia. They must know something. Look the Ethopian somalis. They don’t want a uinion with somalia. They may want an independant country, but not a union with somalia. guess why!

    i think we can fairly say that all other somalis, don”t a union with southern somali. we. in somaliland made a mistake first and we don’t want to repeat it. Mogadisho is the bermuda triangle. look at ina bubba , he never became something. never made it back.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Axmed, for the the feedback. Peace!

  • Mursal

    “Though the said campaign was against the SNM whose main agenda was to recall the Act of the Union signed shortly after the founding of the new nation,…”
    FACT: SNM’s goal has never been to secede the North from the South. SNM’s constitution clearly stated that it was fighting to liberate all Somalia from the dictatorial rule.
    Arman has got this point wrong.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Mursal, for the feedback. If you are referring to the early period of its formation, I agree. However, in its later years, there is ample historical evidence that they had a classic case of ideological derailment. That is why many who were members in that first stage became disillusioned and left the movement or became opposition to the movement. I leave the rest to others in this discussion who are more informed on the inner dynamic of the movement to add what I left out.

  • Abukar Sanei

    Thank you Mr. Ambassador for the article that maybe a means to bring the Somali people (North and South) together.

    It is the benefit of all Somalis to come together, reflect on what went wrong since independence, and put together a plan that can leave a legacy for the future generations. If the statesmen of yesterday realized that Somalia can only be one nation, and left a shinning legacy for all Somalis, those who live now can do the same or better.

    Division will only keep Somalia (North and South) weak, which is only beneficial for those who want to exploit Somalia.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Abukar, for the feedback. You are right: “Division will only keep Somalia (North and South) weak, which is only beneficial for those who want to exploit Somalia.”

  • Dayib Atto

    Its not beyond the realm of possibilities to one day in the near future see Hargeysa or another city in the former British Somaliland becoming the capital city of the second republic of Somalia. But before that Somalis first need to take some serious Truth and Reconciliation steps.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Dayib, for the feedback. Well said.

  • Jamal

    Somaliand’s one clan driven secessionists greatest fear is Southern Somalia, particularly Mogadishu, becoming peaceful. Mogadishu’s return will easily attract a lot of ISAQs in Hargeisa now. Without even any negotiation, every ordinary Isaq, not currently personally benefiting from the myth of statehood used for personal gains, will easily see that Mogadishu is just like his home as thousands of Mogadishu residents who fled from Ethiopia massacre found Hargeisa as theirs. There is no hatred and distrust among Somalis, whether they are in Hargeisa, Mogadishu or Bosaso, except those some politicians spread to keep their power. The lack of hatred will just make easy for Somalis in Hargeisa and Mogadishu to form once again a prosperous and peaceful country.

    It is a FACT that there HAS NEVER been any SOUTHERN Somali plot against ISAQ. Somalis from different clans, both in the South and North, greatly suffered under the last regime. Those injustice couldn’t be labeled as NORTH VS SOUTH.

    Let us not make the pseudo political leaders, who came from every clan and betrayed the Somalis, represent Somali state and flag. Dictators and killers come and go. Somali flag and statehood is here to stay and needs new generations to show that its hope and aspiration will be true for every Somali, regardless of their clan.

    • Bobby

      It is arguments like those that convince us Somalilanders that a union would never be sincere amongst those based in Mogadishu. Your statement actually had the paradoxical element of proving the fears that Somalilanders have to be true. Principally, you stated that a resurgent Mogadishu would attract “Isaaqs” (in your words) and it is this kind of thinking that led to the ill fated Union. This is because Southerners believe all is Mogadishu and everything is Mogadishu which led to the political, economic and social marginalisation of the North during the union.

      You are right there is no hatred amongst Somalis and any Somali is welcome in Hargeisa as long as he or she does not try to cause civil strife in a land where peace is a valued commodity. However, likewise you seem to not understand the grievances of Somalilanders, people from the South just believe that Mogadishu will solve all the ills of Somalis worldwide, did you ever think that a centralization of power and influence in Mogadishu and the South made us Somalilanders realize that re-independence was crucial.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Jamal, for the feedback. Unless there is honest, heart-to-heart discourse that leads to genuine reconciliation, I don’t know how feasible is your concluding assertion that the “Somali flag and statehood is here to stay and needs new generations to show that its hope and aspiration will be true for every Somali, regardless of their clan.” I am sure you would agree that it is in our collective best interest to tone down the rhetoric.

  • Ugaas Ali Saleeban

    Your opinion feel short of irrelevant. Awdal, Maakhir and Khaatumo are all projects designed to fragment Somaliland by non other then the men tasked with creating a government in moqadishu. They failed to achieve a functional government after 15 conferences and counting. Even if Somaliland was happy to unite with their southern former partners and that is a big if 1. For 21 years Southern somalia has failed to achieve peace. 2. For 21 years there has not been a single individual elected into office by the civilians 3. Somalia is fragmented into a 100 federal states with double that number in unelected presidents 4. for 21 years Somalia has only expressed negativity towards the north while somaliland has given the refugees of somalia a home. Pan-Somali unity is an attractive proposal and it will come one day insha’allah. the challenge we have today is to retain all 5 somali regions in a state of peace to aid development and allow the nationalistic emotions from all 5-somali regions to rebuild because it does not exist at this time. NFD, Ogadeen and Djbouti are not in a position to even consider such a union let us not hold somaliland hostage and to ransom any longer 21years of impeded progress is sufficient. Somalia has one opportunity to redeem it’s place in the heart of somalilanders it should declare the 1960 union null and void. The alternative is permnent hate and deterioration of relations btween the two states and guanteed future hostility which will see both state in a perpetual state of war that sends the Horn into permanent anarchy and chaos. Distance makes the hearts grow founder we need to allow for a period of seperation and allow for both states to experience independence. I predict in less that 2-3 terms of political office the population both states will grow frustrated with their respective leaderships and that will give rise to renewed feelings of Pan-somalism that will include populations from djbouti, nfd and ogadeen too… we simply need to trust in the power of seperation if we don’t trust in anything else in somali politics, we need to let go and allow unity the space it requires to grow once again. P.s let us focus on ending piracy and those who profit from piracy.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Ugaas Ali Saleebaan, for the feedback. Aside from a few ideological romantics, irredentism, or the Pan-Somali movement that fueled Somali nationalism of the sixties and seventies, is yesterday’s news. We need to cultivate a new sense of nationalism- a rational or an enlightened version based on collective self-preservation through a negotiated social contract to govern ourselves with or a constitution that is based on justice….

      Ugaas Ali Saleebaan, I am sure you would agree that the prevalence of selective justice should be challenged. If Somaliland has the right to secede from Somalia why can’t the others (Khatumo, Maakhir and Awdal state) have the same right? Especially when they all have one grievance or another from Somaliland.

  • Jamal

    The author of this article is either day dreaming or ignorant on the facts on the ground.
    He claims that Somaliland’s quest for independence has reached a dead end. He also lists the countless imaginary regions that the Somali Diaspora warlords attempted to create in Somaliland, namely: Makhir, Awdal, & Khatumo.
    All these phony regions exist in name. The government of Somaliland controls the majority of the country, with the exception of few remote villages along Puntland region.
    The author also states that SNM’s agenda was to withdraw from the Somali union. History attests SNM never planned to abandoned the Somali union, but after the Somali warlords could not pull their heads out of their rear-ends, Somaliland decided to withdraw from the union in 1991.
    The author truly has very little understanding of the Somali history.
    As for the Somali union, it was never ratified, so it doesn’t really matter.
    As far as Somaliland’s independence is concerned, it IMPOSSIBLE for Somaliland to reunite with Somalia, no matter what.
    So the likes of Abokor Amran could play the clan card to dismantle Somaliland, but they will lose just like the ones before them did.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, jamal, for the feedback. Please refer to my response to Ugaas ali Saleebaan above.

  • Dayib Atto

    We Somali seem to have so much appetite for rancor, have we not done enough damage to each other already? My fellow southerners could use a little “charm offensive” against our fellow Somlailanders in order to stop this breakup from becoming permanent, after all if someone doesn’t like you anymore no amount of UN laws or Constitutional articles can make them like you again. So a Charm Offensive is the rational way to go, I think, so lets tell our Somaliland brothers and sisters that we love them, lets tell them that without them our existence will not be complete.

    • Abukar Arman

      Dayib, we can be more sincere and authentic than simply offering “charm offensive”

      • dayib atto

        Better a charm offensive than a veiled threat of unity “by force” with the use of the most incoherent and divisive language imaginable.

        I think its about time for some of us from the south to stop sleep-ranting those tired waddani slogans and verses, and let good people like you start initiating the badly needed work of truth and reconciliation between the two founding regions of the 1st Republic of our nation.

        Mudane Arman, thanks for the article, and I do understand your point.

  • Daud

    I can see the author really tried his best to be fair and well balanced but even when Somalis try such it is still biased because I honestly think we can never agree on anything.

    I am from Somaliland and I do dream of Somalis being one but it will never materialize because as long as we have the south labeling us as “unsustainable”, “renegades” and “secessionist” we have an issue. If we brought the unity to you and took it back, how does that make us secessionism?

    If Somalis in the south and the so called TFG wanted unity with all honesty, they would apprehend the criminals and hand them over to the ICC.

    They also receive billions in aid, they would cut some and contribute to infrastructures in Somaliland. If I was them and I loved Somalia regardless of the current stance, I would at least put some funds in the peaceful regions but did we see that? No, that says a lot and I do not believe in their unity.

    If we going to be treated bad by those that we seek closeness with, I believe Ethiopia is better for us. Better to be treated bad by foreigners than your own. Somaliland shall remain close to Ethiopia.

    Nothing will ever change in the south. Sharif will fall in matter of days and the cycle will just continue. We have seen it in the last 21 years.

    If they cared about Somalia and peace, they would abandon the whole south and start the government from the north but no, they continue to fight over the two bullet ridden streets of Hamar Jajab.

    Somaliland is going ahead and we happy to allow the Awdal, east Sanaag and Sool decide their own destiny. No one is forcing them. We rather be two families in peace than 50 dis-factional families.

    Waqooyi Galbeed, Toogdheer and western Sanaag can be a great nation with high per capita like Liechtenstein. Do you know how tiny they are? 160 sq km and do you know they have the highest per capita in the world at $141,100 (2008 est.)

    And as for military we have enough warriors and as a sovereign nation we might even sign military treaty with Ethiopia.

    Good luck to Somalia.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Daud, for the feedback.

  • Gamal Mahmud

    The secessionists and their foreign collaborators have certainly been making use of one of Gobbles’ principles of propaganda, namely: that a lie continually repeated over and over again for a long period will ultimately establish itself as a truth. Some of the blatant lies the secessionists and their foreign collaborators have been propagating are:
    (a) That there was an independent sovereign state called ‘The Republic of Somaliland’ recognized by 34 countries and admitted into the United Nations as a member;
    (b) That the clans in the North of Somalia have agreed on their own free will to ‘reclaim’ the independence of their erstwhile ‘state’ and thereby secede from the rest of Somalia;
    (c) That the secessionists control and administer the entire territory of what used to be the North or Somaliland Protectorate;
    (d) That there are democratic institutions set up to include a bicameral legislature and an independent judiciary.

    These claims have no basis in fact. In the first place, there is no, and never was, a country called “Somaliland” which is independent, sovereign and recognized. British protection of the clans in what used to be “Somaliland Protectorate” was withdrawn on 26 June 1960 at the request of the
    clans each of whom had signed a separate treaty with Britain. There was a transitional period of only four days, consumed by the inevitable euphoria, pending the merger with the former U.N. Trust Territory of Somalia. There was no Somaliland flag, no Somaliland national anthem, no Somaliland emblem, no Somaliland constitution, no Somaliland Head of State and no Somaliland Cabinet. All these paraphernalia belonged to the Somali Republic, which was born out of the merger. And when the Union Jack (U.K flag) was lowered in Hargeisa (the capital of British Somaliland) it was the five star, sky blue flag of the Somali Republic, which was hoisted. The
    question may then be asked: which 34 countries sent recognition letters to a country that had no President, no Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and even no national flag? The secessionists will never answer, for they know that the truth is not on their side. As for the membership of the United Nations one has simply to check the records of this world body to see that there never was a member-state called “Somaliland”. Recognition for an interim entity was a non-issue for Somalis and thus none was granted.

    Clearly, the secessionists have been building their case on a pack of trumped-up stories; for they also make the claim that the clans of the North (the defunct Somaliland) came together and agreed on their own volition to break away from the rest of Somalia, and that in a subsequent
    ‘constitutional referendum’ 97% of the voters approved the secession. The so-called referendum was a sham: it was organized, conducted and supervised by none other than the secessionists themselves; it was preceded by a heavy propaganda campaign for secession while
    those who were in favor of unity were put behind bars and condemned as ‘traitors’ if they dared voice their opinions in public. There was no voting at all in a large number of areas particularly those inhabited by the northern Daarood clans (the Dhulbahante and Warsengeli); yet it was reported that almost all the voters in those areas voted for the secession – a stark-naked lie. Those are areas which are closed to the secessionists. It is not true therefore that the so-called Somaliland covers the entire area of what used to be Somaliland Protectorate.

    The secession is spearheaded by opportunistic elements from the Isaaq clan but the other clans consider the secession to be a blatant and shameless betrayal of the original inter-clan agreement on uniting with the rest of the country – Somalia.

    • Eurokid

      Here is the answer you seek regarding Somaliland’s independence in 1960. http://somalilandpress.com/somaliland-independence-26th-june-1960-the-world-press-6954.

      And here is a list of the few countries that recognized Somaliland in 1960, USA, Egypt, Israel and the UK I do not have a fuller list of others. If you go down the page for widely recognized countries you will see that below Somalia is Somaliland and it was recognized as a widely held member of the UN befor its merger in 1960 with Italian Somaliland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_in_the_1960s#S

      But you my friend are engulfed in tribal animosity and hatred. You are entitled to your opinion, but you refer to everything that Somaliland is as a hate program. What surprises me about you so called unionists is that you are hell bent on talking for those that you do not know in order to create civil strife in Somaliland. For example, half my family are Gadarbuursi and support Somaliland as much as anyone else, yet you are hell bent on trying to create seeds of discord in Somaliland. You will never hear me trying to talk for the Dhulbahante or Warsangeli clans as I do not know where they stand and it would be an injustice of me to try and speak for them.

      We give you solid arguments to show you that Somaliland is not a one clan state and yet you people insist on showing your naked disregard for everything Somaliland is and you insist on meddling in Somaliland’s affairs to cause division, it is almost as if you believe that causing civil strife in Somaliland will bring down your union.

      Alas, it is this that makes me proud to be a Somalilander and more convinced that we should proceed with our lofty ambitions. May God bring peace to Somalia. But always I will say Viva Somaliland

      • Ali

        To set the record straight there is not a single country in the world, including even Britain, that ever recognized Somaliland as an independent nation in 1960. Every nation in the world was aware of the merging process pending for the two Somalis to be one nation. There is not also a single nation that have ever recognized Italian Somaliland as a Somalia. Instead of separately extending a recognition for the two regions, prepared to form one nation, the world community waited and extended one full recognition to Somali Republic consisting of British and Italian Somaliland. Since the birth of Somali Republic made of the two regions was declared on July 1, 1960, 12:00 AM, rather than Somalia representing former Italian Somaliland, there had never been an independent Southern Somalia entity representing Somalia in the world.

        For the sake of courtesy, some nations just sent congratulatory messages for Northern Somalis obtaining their freedom from British. This was never expressed as extending a diplomatic recognition for Somaliland. It is very strange for the educated ISAQ secessionists to say publicly “some nations have recognized” knowing diplomatically well defined procedure is followed when a nation extends a recognition to another nation. Those congratulatory messages cannot be taken as a recognition when those nations didn’t even bother to attend June 26, 1960 celebration. Every nation waited to celebrate with all Somalis in their union in Mogadishu.

        Let us not be fooled by the purely fabricated ISAQ secessionists propaganda, knowing their one-clan driven state will not work, claim of saying more than 30 countries recognized us.

        • Eurokid

          Well it is a known fact that Somaliland having gained its independence, decided on 27th June 1960 during meetings with ministers from Mogadishu and the Somaliland legislative body decided to join the union with Somalia (at that time Italian Somaliland).

          So on the actual day of Somaliland’s independence around 30 plus states recognized it and I will even give you a unbiased source, here is the link (http://www.law.emory.edu/fileadmin/journals/eilr/24/24.2/Farley.pdf) go on page 780. So I guess these educated “secessionists” weren’t fabricating this one. However, evidence would mean nothing to you since you hate us doing so well and building a state from the rubbles that your so called leader inflicted on us (Siad Barre).

          Besides we have recognition from our people and to us that means more than anything that an official status could ever. Just look at Somalia and Mogadishu it has all the official trimmings of a state and yet it has no semblance of Law and order and I do pray that it one day does.

          In the meantime, keep dreaming Somaliland we been fine without you.

        • Aden Gesi

          In order for the Union to have taken effect Somaliland as a protectorate had to become an independant nation first. Thus it was recognised as a nation but it requested not to bother with all of the other usual processes because of the pending Union. It would have been useless to open a Somaliland embassy only to close it down in a few days. In conclusion it was legally a recognised sovereign state.
          This will educate you (and it is an original document)- http://www.somalilandlaw.com/Somaliland_constitutional_conference_may1960.pdf

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Gamal, for the feedback. You come across as an informed person. Just keep in mind, combative engagement might distort your facts.

  • Sijui

    Good article, but runs the risk of oversimplifying the complexity of the issue at hand. Abukar’s piece comes across almost a pathological conjunction between semi-objective assesment and a government mouthpiece opinion page editorial.The very process of joining such an embattled transitional government should evoke fear and mistrust in Somalilanders.Although the ultimate focus should be to bring the two group together, i doubt questioning who is in bed with the secesionist idea will solve the bigger picture as he is alluding. I doubt there is any elders in Hargeisa daydreaming about joining South Somalia as he puts it.I must confess on the surface, all Somali regions are same when clan politics is involved.The Isaqs have nothing to fear, so is the rest of the neighbouring clans.The democratically elected government in Somaliland has to some extent sap the forces that are hell-bent on destructions and mayhem.To overcome any paralysis both sides should weight carefully their options.They can both side step their monolithic views and look at the bigger picture of Somali enemy.Yes Ethiopia and all other neighboring countries are Somali enemies, but it is going to take men with integrity to look at the big picture, and in large part will determine the state of Somali people.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Sijui, for the feedback.

    • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

      Somali people could not be determined by just the two (Somaliland and Somalia) and all other neighbouring countries are not enemies of Somalis. Djibouti is Somali nation on its own and you can’t call it enemy. Somalis that you are referring to the mere Somalis are enemies to each other. Becoming Somaliland and Somalia means three independent Allied Somali Nations who can assist one another in so many ways. Its better than being enemies within.

  • Garyaqaan

    One thing remains to be reality to be reckon with. “SL” equals Isak admin. As Awdal is for Gudabiirsey, Khaatumo for Dhulbahante and Maakhir is for Warssngeli. The sooner we accept this realm the better for all concerned. Anything short of this will take us all to the gates of hell.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Garyaqaan, for the feedback. I wish I could prove your assertion wrong. You crudely described the danger ahead.

    • Hassan

      I am from Boorama and I can fully say that Awdal is part and parcel of Somaliland, its something we have an equal state in so speak for SSC or Khatuumo if you wish but do not speak to us.

      I dare any of you guys to go Boorama and you will see the facts on the ground for yourselves. It is our country as much as people from the Isaaq clan so please leave us out of your machinations.

      • Abukar Arman

        Tnamk you, Hassan, for the feedback.

  • Farah

    MYTH: The existence of a new Somaliland state based on a former British Somaliland created to address injustice inflicted by former Italian Somailand leaders on former British Somaliland people.

    MYTH: The existence of Northern Somalis vs Southern Somalis. Somalis are generally manipulated by individuals that use “any means necessary”, even always at the expense of their own clans, to advance their own personal interest.

    During Siad Bare, ISAQS were the main collaborators of poisoning wells, bombing, massacring, killing and torturing Majertens in central regions. Let us not forget Dhegaweyne, the Butcher of Central regions and Former Somaliland President Riyale, Berbera torturer and tormentor, Later Siad Barre turned against ISAQ by using every Somali clan, including Northerners such as ISAQS, Dhulbanhanate, etc.

    Since there is not an iota of regional based unjustness committed in Somalia, but there is every evidence of tyrant and oppressive persons, from every Somali clan, using clans to inflict damage on other clans, ISAQS have not justification to label Southern Somalis as a people united to marginalize them. Southern Somalis are not representing one clan, just as Northerners are not also. For this reason, ISAQ’s secessionist agenda has no bases whatsoever other than just forming ISAQ clannish state. Any person supporting the ISAQ based secessionists in the North then he should also support those NON-ISAQS based secessionist in the North, such Awdal and Khatumo, who strongly refused to be dominated by one clan.

    ISAQ politicians, like Prime Minister Egal, were master manipulators who used and formed IRIRISM to get rid of even the nominal affinity displayed by USP and SNL supporters, the two Non-ISAQs and ISAQ based former British Somaliland political parties. Leaders from former British Somaliland has never ever as one block against united Southern Somalis, which never existed. The same is also true for the Southern Somali politicians not ever uniting as a one block against Northern Somali politicians. Somali state formed in 1960 was based on a system manipulated by politicians shifting their alliance, not purely based on regional/clan bases, but by personal interest.

    FACT: Somaliland is nothing but purely ISAQ driven secessionism masking themselves representing all former British Somaliland.

    • Nasiir

      We are here having an intellectual and necessary debate. Instead here you are proving to us that some people can have a monopoly over ignorance.

      All your so called myths have been put to rest by the balanced arguments of those all above. You should not speak for the inhabitants of Awdal my own region considering we support Somaliland fully, the majority of us anyway.

      Reading responses like yours reminds me why union would never be in our own personal interests. I the meantime I wish for Somalia to find its feet.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Farah, for the feedback. You are well informed, but you discredit yourself when you equate a person’s crime to that of a clan. I have a problem accepting the widely embraced fallacies that render entire clans guilty as a result a criminal act(s) committed by one of their members. As rational human beings, we should reject such arguments even if they blame the immediate family of a criminal let alone an entire clan.

  • Realist

    Having seen the title, I thought this will be an article based on honest and intended to create a platform for a healthy debate but this is just full of the usual unqualified assertions that most of the Somaliland opponents make about Somaliland’s population make up. Unless the author considers the cyber-invented states as actual states, this is a gross misrepresentation of the realities on the ground.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Realist, for the feedback. You are not suggesting the recent armed conflict in Soul and Sanaag and simmering tension in the area was nothing but a cyber-based make believe, are you?

  • Garyaqaan

    Khaatumo is a reality, Maakhir is a reality and so on, what part of my reality you don’t understand?

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Garyaqaan. I hear you loud and clear.

  • Eurokid

    At the end of the day Mr Amran you will always have your position pro-Somalia, pro-TFG and anti-Somaliland. However, we Somailanders have our own position, why isit that you expect us to change our narrative and debates and to forgo our identity and belonging in order to fit into your narrative of a new Somalia. If talking from a position of strength should it not be the other way around, considering Somaliland’s achievements in the last 21 years (democracy, state-building etc). Whereas it is well known what Somalia and Mogadishu has gone through in the last 21 years. Should it not be you guys who should change the narrative to include respect and emulation of Somaliland instead of just wishing ill on it and hoping for its destabalization.

    • Abukar Arman

      “Should it not be you guys who should change the narrative to include respect and emulation of Somaliland instead of just wishing ill on it and hoping for its destabalization.”

      Eurokid, your statement is worth pondering. I think we should. That said, I hope you, on your part, would re-examine your conviction that your brethren in the South are all hoping for the destabilization of Somaliland.

      • EuroKid

        Yes I agree with you, not everyone from Somalia wishes to see Somaliland destablaized, however a very large majority do.

        Nevertheless, as Somalilanders we can be harsh too.

        No-one holds a monopoly over truth until we all take an objective look at the facts on the ground, myself included.

        In the meantime, all the best for Somaliland and Somalia, whatever the future holds

        • Abukar Arman

          Thank you, EuroKid. Well put.

  • Mogadishu Monk

    You so called “Somalilanders” make me laugh so much. That flag of yours is illegal, your flag is the blue and white one and your capital is Mogadishu. It makes me sick how you guys believe Hargeisa to be your capital it is our Second city.

    It is always the same arguments Siad Barre killed by chickens he displaced my grandma blah blah, Siad Barre was a Somali national hero and it should be in the Somali schools curriculum to teach about him and call him the father of the nation as he rightly is.

    Also, you Isaaqs whether you like it or not you will always be part of Somalia, soon Mogadishu will regain its former glory and we will rebuild our army and retake our lands and cities starting with Khatumoo through to Toghdeer, Hargeisa, Awda all the way up to Djibouti. Then we will charge your elites with treason and they will be punished severely.

    God Bless Somalia and I will be waiting patiently for the collapse of Somailand, to me it will be like a good movie.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Mogadishu Monk, for the feedback. Let us please keep it civil. It is not right to belittle the grievance of any victim however futile it might seem to you. Also, inflammatory language helps no one. Hope you tone it down. Thanks.

    • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

      You so called Monk+ey and fast majority of Somalia lough so much with hallucinations and think your failed state and the muder capital of the world that is full of carcases is where the univers revolves. You mudered your heroes including doctors. I know the man you called hero( Afweyne Barre ) and his cousin Abdillahi Yey did not have guts to live in your pirate, terrorist and warlord invested Somalia after losing war. The fact that they both ended up in refugee camp before thier sorrowful deaths. That was enough for punishment. These people you call chickens distroyed your formerly so-called glorified army and have its equipment plus extras. I don’t mind if you bring more so that we can grab and snatch as usual for our own use. bring it on. To settle with you, who are, more like chickens, thrown food through the air from Kismayo to Baidawa to your “Xeebta Geerida” Dead Cost. You don’t have a flag the only flag you have is the UNCR falg. All you praise yourself is killing women and childern (the most vulnerable ). Shame on you

  • Aden Gesi

    Well Mr Arman is expressing his viewpoint. More importantly is what Amb Shinn has now posted on his blog:
    Conservative Think Tank Proposes Somalia Policy – http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/05/saving-somalia-the-next-steps-for-the-obama-administration

    The Washington-based conservative think tank, The Heritage Foundation, published a background paper on 18 May 2012 titled Saving Somalia: The Next Steps for the Obama Administration. The authors, Morgan Lorraine Roach and Ray Walser, both with the Heritage Foundation, make a number of controversial recommendations including recognition of Somaliland’s independence and putting Eritrea on the list of state sponsors of terrorism.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Aden, for sharing. I read the report. It is a political perspective from 35,000 ft above the ground vantage point! I will leave it at that.

      • Aden Gesi

        Dear Abukar,

        I am sorry but I don’t quite understand your response, is it coded? ‘It is a political perspective from 35,000 ft’. Are you saying that your analysis is much nearer then 35,000 ft? may be yours is 30,000 ft instead.
        What is important about the report is the bold conclusion. Historically the US has always been in favour of restoring the Somali Republic, so I think you should acknowledge the shift in analysis. We as all Somalis have an opportunity to press the re start button. I just think we need to think out of the box and that means if Somaliland is a feasible project then lets support it. In time we can think of having the same economic policy, borderless travel policy and more seats in regional bodies. Surely that is beneficial to all Somalis.

        • Abukar Arman

          Dear Aden Gesi, that was the most generous assessment that I could give the report. Their report ignores (or perhaps they are oblivious to) the dynamics that the impetus article addressed and this lively discussion has shed better light upon.

          I hate to tell you this, if stability and democratic process was the only requisite to being recognized, Taiwan would have been a sovereign state.

  • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

    I can’t help but wonder how Arman and his fellow pro-greater Somalia twist and turn the simple facts. This is how Arman worded the famous Article 6 of the London Conference communiqué :
    “Article 6 which calls for Somalia and Somaliland to engage in a direct dialogue in order to achieve a holistic approach to peace.”
    The actual wording of the Article 6 of the Communique is the followin “The Conference recognised the need for the international community to support any dialogue that Somaliland and the TFG or its replacement may agree to establish in order to clarify their future relations.” and read the proof from here http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/news/latest-news/?id=727627582&view=PressS

    Mr Arman pleace be responsiple Ambasador and atleat be Honest with the people you represent in your office as well as those you claim to represent. Don’t lose integrity over something that you and I know that it is not genuine.

    By posting this article, You showed how cheap your arguments are besides its weakness. It is easily dismissed by every ordinary Somalilander. You have just exposed how offhanded you are for any dialogue. Somali Republic was not built by combined 18 regoions or on basis of trible fiefdoms. It was two Nations united by the desire of each one. It is devided by desire of one (Somalia) to fail and the other, Somaliland, which opted the union in order not to fail. The will of the majority of Somaliland people will be the determinant and the last inevitable solution.

    • Abukar Arman

      Ahmed, you are entitled to your own interpretation. I have no problem with it. Can we just agree that it a progress that South and North are having a dialogue on the future of the Somali people?

  • Sijui

    The London’s Conference article six was only a way to start negotiation tracks between Somalia and Somaliland.Nothing more than a way of telling Somalis to solve their differences. This was a way to acknowledge the differences that existed between Somalia and Somaliland, but albeit one that only can be solved within Somalis framework of negotiations.This two camps never had a direct contact before and it was promising to see them in the same conference.Unfortunately the two camps are deriding every aspect of common sense of negotiations.I doubt the author is dismissing the impact of the London confrence.What I disagreed with the Abukar is how he theorized that the Somaliland obsession with secession is a forgone ambitions. I doubt the ideological difference between Somalia and Somaliland is almost disappearing as he puts it in his article. No signs are showing some elites ditching of secession. In fact the opposition parties and the current Somaliland government are collaborating in a unified approach towards the upcoming talks with Somalia.

    I really found myself nodding in agreement while reading the author’s contention about Somalis enemies; Ethiopia being at the forefront. The author being a government representative is presenting his side of the story, but beyond the basic facts he has done a great job of showing the future impact of Ethiopia war on Somali sanity! It will take years and years to bounce back from Ethiopia hegemony of Somalia.Ethiopia continues to crimp Somalia ambition by supporting different sect of Somali pseudo-leadership.Somalis can compromise or they can mutually exhaust each other while Ethiopia keeps putting them on the leash as long as they desire.The only choice for Somalis is a compromise, and i believe mutual brotherhood and looking at the bigger picture can bring that.

    There is a need for a good consensus on both sides to reach a mutually respected deal.I wholeheartedly Support Somaliland ambitions of building something out of nothing, but I’m also worried of Somalis becoming an artificial proxy for Ethiopia. I hope men with dignity will raise and make hard and unpopular decisions on both sides.It should be the moral responsibility of both sides to look things from good psyche.It is only through reason can we deter our enemies and protect our people.

    Clan politics only brings about contradictory goals against both our religion and the world we live in. Clan politics only brings a deep disdain for each other.A day will come when all this is history and you alone will leave this world (as you came alone).Clan politics is a reality and we can’t deny this simple FACT, but we can groom men with integrity out of every clan.Clan politics is here to stay and this has been proven by the recent tiff in Istanbul over a nickname.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Sijui. I am sure you wont disagree with the fact that change comes in a variety of ways. On one hand, anyone can turn a dark room into a bright one by merely switching the light mechanism into an “On” position (granted if there is electricity and the light bulb is not burned out). On the other hand, changes that result from productive peace negotiations, or more appropriately renegotiation of mutually beneficially reunion or partnership (as South and North never fought a war), it is a process that no one can guess when it could come into a full fruition.

      So, instead of unnecessary re-debating what Article 6 meant, let us rejoice the fact that a face-to-face dialogue is about to start, and the attitude toward one another is one that is dramatically different than the prevalent one of the past two decades. Let us also pray for a better outcome for all of us.

  • Weerar

    The author of this article is from Somalia and as usual bias towards Somaliland‘s undeniable achievements for the last twenty years. This writing is for public consumption particularly the concerned international community. Talking and writing, what seems implausible article and ineffectual particularly in the arenas that matters – the Somalilanders square -!
    My advice to brother Arman is to direct his energy to something which is beneficial and constructive… Saying a fresh civil war is brewing in Somaliland, shows either he is ignorant about Somaliland ways to counterbalance such ill perceived tragedies on his part or apparently jealous about Somaliland and looking forward to its demise. Somaliland is bigger than cheap PR propaganda from Somalia’s Special Envoy to the United States, Mind you.
    Mr. Arman, can I give you one kind advice, please try a have a nice trip to Hargeisa for just about two weeks for a visit, I believe your perception about Somaliland will have greatly be impacted to come up different and deeper thought process for both camps.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, brother Weerar, for the feedback. You are entitled to your own perception, and I am not here to defend myself. However, I don’t see how a blatant denial of the positive and negative realities unfolding in Somaliland would help any one. You and others had every opportunity to tear apart all the claims I made in the impetus article one by one. Instead you opted to settle for ad hominem!

  • Osman Elmi

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    I am writing in response to a writing with the title ‘ Why Somaliland Matters’ by Abukar released recently in which the writer miserabley went wrong in the history as well as in the current situation of Northern Somalia, “Somaliland”. I would, therefore, like to give the readers a brief factual history and a true picture of the present prevailing circumstnces in this part of the country.

    Precolonial Times

    Northern Somalia, “Somaliland” was a Protectorate, not a Colony.

    Before the arrival of Britain, the people and lands which became Somaliland Protectorate in the late 19th century were traditionally divided into clans and their territories. Each clan was separate and independent from the other. Chiefs, Suldans, Grads and Ugases administered the civil and judicial matters inside and outside clans.

    During the British protectorate rule, each clan maintained its internal administration and the United Kingdom recognized each clan area as a separately protected people and territory. That was because, the clan treaties defined land boundaries and people. This means that neither the British nor the clans were interested in the creation of a unitary state of Somalis in the North. At any point in their long history, the northerners never agreed to form a unitary state.

    The United Kingdom worked with each clan through the chiefs and in accordance with the terms of an agreement. The major treaty that ever existed in documented form was that signed in Zeila by the,Samaroon King on December 11, 1884. That popular treaty is known as the Gadabursi treaty and it defined the lands and the people to be protected.

    Liberation and Independence

    In the middle of liberation campaign, the different clans did not agree on how to share the proposed 33 parliamentary (legislative) seats. 21 out of the 33 were located in the constituency of one clan, the Isaaq. Samaroon adamantly rejected the plan and in that case, Samaroon’s political vision matched the system of checks and balances used by today’s modern democracies. Checks and balances is a transparent administrative rule that denies empowering one side against others. Today, in the United States, the executive, the legislature and the judiciary branches are at constant check on each other.

    Samaroon began to fight the injustice and leaders started their historic journey to Lasanod, the eastern end of Somaliland Protectorate. The purpose was to recruit alliances against the constituency plan.They were successful in forming the United Somali Party (USP) for the Samaroon, the Issa and the Darood clans on17/10/1959.

    The USP clans and others who feared for their future, formed a strong pressure block. Large groups from the Isaaq tribes sided with the USP policy. That power share disagreement fundamentally forced the Northerners to join Southern people.

    The fact is that clan treaties with British were automatically annulled by the onset of independence declaration. After that, different clans could not agree in the balance of seats and decided to form a bigger government with the South. The blue flag was always the unifying factor in all Somalia and “Somaliland” never stood a seperate state.

    On July 1, 1960, the unification that took place in Mogadishu was between the two peoples of the North and South and not between two governments. The Northern delegation was fairly selected in their representation. They were Haji Ibrahim Nur, Samaroon; Ali Grad Jama, Darod; Mohmed Haji Ibrahim Egal, Isaaq; Ahmed Haji Duale, Isaaq. One year later, the national constitution was completed by an all inclusive Somali committee with the help of United Nations experts. A date was set on June 20, 1961 to put the constitution on a referendum throughout the country. An absolute majority of 90% of the electors voted in favour of the new constitution. That was the first constitutional and internationally recognised Somali Republic state and was recognised by the United Nations on Sept. 20,1961.

    The Basic Facts

    Today, after 62 years, The Isaaq clan “ Somaliland” is attempting to play the long dead card which Northern clans buried within 5 days after the British left in June 1960. The northerners, today are back to square one, that of 1960 tribal rivalry. One clan is attempting to highjack the destiny of the people. We are, therefore, warning the international community that the so called Somaliland one clan authority has no mandate to speak for other people in the north.

    The Civil War Years

    The 1960 Northern unresolved power surfaced again in the 1980s.

    Twenty years after independence, in the 1980s, Somalis generally revolted against their government. Clans were equally unhappy about the system but had their own ideological and interest differences. In this region, the unresolved issue of power sharing in 1960 emerged on the surface again when the Isaaq clan founded their rebel movement, the Somali National Movement (SNM). Other clans and particularly, the Samaroon elite cautiously tried to follow the SNM agenda and realized that SNM was not ready to correct the 1960 power share disagreement. Since it did not invite other clans, the SNM’s objective, in that war, was to capture the whole north and dictate the destiny of the country. That is exactly what the Somaliland authority is doing today. In their fight, SNM leaders played irresponsible strategic propagandas to generate financial contributions and to unite their people behind their agenda. For that purpose, they pointed finger at the neighboring clans as enemies. The aim was to touch deep into their people’s sentiments and show that all people were against them.

    During the civil war, Samaroon majority knew that SNM leaders, not their public, were playing irresponsible campaign.That was why Samaroon public administrators, security and military officials assisted the Isaaq public in many difficult situations. True examples were General Yusuf Tallan, the Berbera military commander and Elmi Roble, Elmi Kabal, the Hargiesa regional police commander. Unfortunately, most Isaaqs did not acknowledg the Samaroon assistance or their reasoning for not joining the civil war.

    SNM’s mistakes:

    - Instead of directing their war on the government and its forces, SNM began to kill the unarmed Samaroon and other neighboring civilian populations.

    - They never admitted the death and the destruction that SNM forces did to their neighbors. They wiped out whole towns, villagers and even worshippers in mosques.

    - Today, they tell the international community that they were the only people who suffered under the previous regime.

    - They don’t acknowledge the fact that one bad Somali government had destroyed not only Hargeisa, but all Somalia and the capital Mogadishu was heavily bombarded for months.

    - They don’t try to understand that bad governance ruined many countries in the world and Somalia is not the first country. Todday, they have another bad one in their hands in Hargeisa but do they want to see it ?

    In 1991, after the collapse of the Somali government, SNM militia backed by Ethiopian Mengistu overran the Samaroon’s main city, Borama. They killed hundreds, ransacked homes, looted all business stores and displaced the city population. On their way to Borama, they demolished the historic adjacent town of Dila completely. Samaroon was only a peaceful and helpful neighbor and not a government. Why SNM was fighting their neighbors is still unknown to most of them and a mystery to other Somalis.

    After the Civil War

    In 1992, SNM proclaimed ‘Somaliland” a separate state from Somalia, forcing Samaroon and other tribes to join the illegal declaration. In a short time, the different Isaaq tribes started to clash with each other for power struggle. The whole country was again awash with guns, looters, rapists and road blockers. Roads were impassable with chekpoints by various clan gang members who claimed the road passages as their territory. At broad daylight, wild gunmen overpowered the president, Abdirahman Ahmed and his guards when he walked away from his car. At that point, members from neighbouring Isaaq elders approached Samaroon leaders for help. Samaroon decided to forgive the past and to mend fences with their SNM neighbours. From there, they stepped in and began their long journey of hope to negotiate peace between Isaaq fighting groups.

    Two loaded buses of elders, with white flags, left Borama. In a short time, they were successful to accomplish inter-clan peace in Hargeisa, Berbera and Burao. After that, they organised another meeting in Sheikh as a platform for a country wide conference. More than 150 delegates gathered in sheikh and decided to hold a general peace conference. At that point, the conference hosting clan became an issue of serious debate. Each clan was reluctant to be the guest to the other as there was no trust among the Isaaqs. proposals like Hargeisa, Burao, Berbera and Gabiley were all declined by one group or the other. As a last resort, Borama, the Samaroon city, was proposed as the hosting region and all delegates unanimously accepted with applause. As a result, In 1993, a long five-month conference in Borama succeeded to draft the terms of the first functional administration for today’s Somaliland system .

    In addition to the Samaroon people’s sincerity, their land was the only perfect place for peace conference. They had a 21 member council of leaders that worked as their legislative body. In all inter-clan matters and in other related issues, the council’s decision was final. Nobody could dare to violate the laws that the council approved. The people had their own policing system with each clan leader responsible for the actions of his people and that eliminated lawlessness. Furthermore, Borama was the only town with electricity power in northern Somalia and there were dozens of international aid agencies. The airport was functional at its full capacity with a fair number of passenger and cargo aircrafts each day.

    How Samaroon in Somaliland got the wrong reward for doing the right thing.

    In exchange for their good work, Samaroon got the wrong reward when:

    - Within few months, their Borama busy airport was closed and all flights and passengers were re-routed to Hargeisa airport.

    - All international aid agencies were ordered to move from Borama to Hargeisa.

    - Samaroon business people were forced to use the Berbera sea port where they are mugged and sometimes killed. In Nov. 2011, the latest victim on that road was a truck driver who was shot dead by road control soldier in bribe dispute.

    - Isaaq occupied 95% of the Somaliland administration, the congress, the parliament, the armed forces, the security, the judicial and financial systems.

    - A 10 million dollar aid from Kuwait governent was Somalilnad infrastructure investment. That money went to the extension of Hargiesa and Berbera airports. In contrast, Awdal people and Diaspora struggled to finish a four kilometer road between Dila an Borama. Borama Airport is closed and all roads are unfit for travel. One of Awdal’s renouned doctors died very recently on those extreme roads.

    - A 30 million Europan Union and UN funded water project is improving the water systems of the ruling clan towns of Hargeysa, Erigavo, Burao and Togwajale

    - Khalifa bin Zayed Charity Foundation has completed 20 large water basins/dams west of Hargeisa and 14 water wells in the north of the city. The foundation has also drilled 9 new water wells and a watershed basins in Burao.

    - In July 2009, business travellers were stopped in public road. Four of them were taken to the bush, murdered in cold blood and their bodies mercilessly mutilated.

    - Students came out in masses in protest against July ugly killings, raised the Somali flag and denounced the separatist authority. SNM militia, angered by the sight of the blue flag, opened fire on demonstrators when a young boy was shot dead. The young martyr died with his right hand still clinging with his national flag.

    - Within the last few years, 13 people are killed in the area of Seemaal. Three of them were cut into pieces with an axe while they were sleeping. The killers were identified by the “Somaliland” Interior Minister on the TV news. Killers are still at large in their tribal enclave safe haven.

    - Samaroon public and others are denied to claim their Somali identity and none can dare to keep the blue flag. From 18 to 22 May, 2012, more than 50 students are taken prisoners. Always, there are large numbers of political prisoners, simply for denying the separatist policy or for having the Somali national flag.

    - On regular basis, news reporters are arrested and tortured. In March 2012, Mohamed Abdirahman Ismail was arrested in Borama, tortured repeatedly in jail and taken to Borama Hospital unconcious.

    Osman Elmi [email protected]
    Chickago, USA

    • Hassan

      Being from Boorama myself and having visited countless times I can tell you that what you are doing is blatant war mongering. Yes, the Seemal incident was terrible and utterly reprehensible and it shows just how inept the authorities in Somaliland can be at times like all African cities.
      Yet, there are killings in Somaliland everyday between different members of tribes and if you try and play this as a tribal war then this is a blatant lie.

      However, if you are trying to say that there is an Ishaaq crusade against us then you are dead wrong. We have had the longest serving president and have an equal stake in Somaliland so please let us not lie about this. At the end of the day, you are within your rights to want union, however what I disagree with is the blatant lies that you are spewing over the internet. Go to Boorama and you will see the political maturity of its educated citizens.

      During the war inter clan war between the Ishaaqs in the mid 1990s we actually took the side of the government. Somaliland is by no means perfect but it is my country and I do not take kindly to people spewing hate and lies over the internet to incite tribal hatred and war. God has always asked us to speak the truth even if we do not like to hear it.

      • Jamal

        Mr. Elmi is 100% right on his accounts. the dubious Hassan who claims from Borama is not what he is claiming. To somalillanders, dont do to others what denied yesterday and dont tell others to take your tribal flag. I am Somali and the blue flag is mine forever

        • Abukar Arman

          Thank you, Jamal. The Somali flag, while it is the official identity of the unified Somali state, keep in mind that it was an identity adopted through consensus.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Osman, for sharing the article. I think you misread my article. Nevertheless, you raised pertinent information that adds value to the on-going discourse. To me your article highlights the core problem that got us where we are as a nation. Regardless of which region, town, or village, it is almost always about injustices committed by those who had the power and the selective justice that they enforced.

      • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

        Before you become extremely happy about injustice alleged against Somaliland adminstration by Osman, I and take it as highlight of the core problem of what you called “Somali problem”, please take a good note of history of the SNM that supposedly dictated the Awdalites. SNM become history as soon as Siad Barre fled the country and was replaced by Somaliland wich was inclusive. If you look back to story of Seemaal and Ceel-berdaale tragic incidents, the main conflict happenned when Honourable Dahir Rayale was leading the country with a full legitimate mandate that he obtained by beating the former SNM leader Siilaanyo. No one could question his power and majority of Somaliland people ellected and rallied behind him with full support regardless of tribe affiliation. I don’t condone Dahir Rayale’s misshandling of it and failure to bring the perpetrators to justice. Justice is still pending and I still blame the Silanyo and Saylici adminstration not making any difference in getting the case closed by capturing and trying the criminals to full extant of the law. Shit happens in every district of the more than 25 main districts of Somaliland. In the case of Awdal developement, it goes without saying, that all Somaliland major cities suffered the destuction of wars we all know. Borama is leading in any measurable way you pick. The first and most prestigious University is located there and other regions look up to the great people of Awdal. Awdal leads Somaliland and the rest are catching up to them. Hargiesa is not like Mogadisu that became a trible city turned into ruble. It belongs to every Somalilander including Osman Elmi and hosts many Somalia people who need enough water and infrastructure and accommodation.

  • Fair Man
    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Fair Man. I have already posted my reaction above.

  • Rashid

    Yes Somalialnd will soon collapse you right 100% mr Amran it dead project and Somalidiids will be sorry for their traitor actions.

    Somalia ha Noolato and wait and see Mogadishu is coming back!!

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Rashid, for the feedback. I hate to say this, but, this kind of comments push us back to the era of antagonism and distrust.

  • Hamse A Khaire

    Thanks to the International Community for its generosity to free up the Somalia elite like Abukar Arman and his AMISOM-made president from the challenging, and burdensome task of state building. Your honor, Mr. ambassador, try to find something else to pass time as SOMALILAND’s issue is irreversible and infallible. Against all odds, Somaliland is nurturing and growing prosperous by the day over the last 20 years. Performance Matters here !
    Somaliland emerges as an alternative form of governance and accountability which symbolizes the capability of Africans to build their own version of state if left alone by colonialists and their puppets in any whatever shape and size they have.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Hamse, for the feedback.

      “Your honor, Mr. ambassador, try to find something else to pass time as SOMALILAND’s issue is irreversible and infallible.” Though I know you mean well, for the record, I am not an Ambassador. I am an Envoy. To me this distinction is critical as all Ambassadors and Envoys are considered diplomats, all Envoys are not considered Ambassadors. On the other more important issue, aside from its hyperbolic value, how does one substantiate the irreversibility and the infallibility of Somaliland?

      Lastly, as I said in one of my previous postings, Somaliland has indeed accomplished something worthy of emulation in the good governance front. I for one salute my brothers and sisters who led the way. However, that is just a half of the story. Some of the rest is what have been expressed by various individuals in the pages above…

  • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

    “Can we just agree that it a progress that South and North are having a dialogue on the future of the Somali people? ” was the question that you left in response to my last comment. I assume that you agreed every thing that I have mentioned which is unbelievably good of you. Coming down to the answer to this question of yours, South “Somalia” and North “Somaliland” are not having or have no right to have a dailogue on the future of Somali people. To prove this Somali people are more than those two mentioned which are being represented in this discussion by you and me given the fact that Somalis in Djibouti are not concerned as well as the North Eastern Kenya known to Somalis as NFD and Zone Five of the Ethiopian Fedaral. Therefore, let Somaliland and the TFG or its replacement discuss their future relationship which will ultimately lead to re-union or withdrawal. The International Community that showed its support this dailogue will be mediating and may judge the process just like the preceded dailogues between former African countries that became conflicting states Ethiopea and Eritria or Sudan and Southern Sudan to mention the last ones you can remember. However, I commend you for your responses to every comment and you are indeed an inspiring leader. Please keep up the good work of testing the waters. Failure teaches success.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you for the kind words, Dhegaweyne.

  • Hamse A Khaire

    What is in a name (ambassador or envoy) ? A Rose will always smell sweet even if you change its name. One of the main factor that failed the 1960 pseudo-union of Somaliland and Somalia was those guys in Somalia seeing Somalilanders as ‘Northerners’. The same old paradigm is still at work.Look at you and Ahmed Dhagawayne. The SOUTH-NORTH language is not also helping either.I know it is difficult for human beings to embrace change, but try to see Somalia and Somaliland as two independent states ONLY then we will be able to assist you in ,as you put it ,’ to rise from the ashes’.

    “….Over time, even those that prove to be the exception to the rule eventually evolve into a much more complex conflict- hence the entity known as Somaliland” This thinking is not even new to me. Since the collapse of Somalia and reemergence of Somaliland, portraying Somaliland as part of the problem had been another key factor that undermined 15+ reconciliation conferences of Somalia.

    For better conversation and intellectual debate on how best you can rebuild your country and clarifications and confirmations that Somaliland is irreversible and infallible would you mind have an SKYPE Conference with me and other Somalilanders.

    • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

      As a Somalilander who have always forgiven Somalia to what they did to us and eventually to themselves, I have always wanted and encouraged dailogue for I blamed that tragedy for the tyrannic dictatorial system, not Somalia people. Now, I can understand why the Noble Egal and the Honourable Rayale always dismissed any dialogue with Somalia. This time we should show them thier true colours in the world stage(London Conference).

      • Abukar Arman

        Ahmed, one of the causes of our on-going collective misery (veneer of sustainable successes in certain pockets aside) is our tendency to overreact to mere verbal or written words intended to provoke.

        We should immunize ourselves before engaging others on sensitive topics such as the one at hand. And keep in mind, whatever legitimate grievance Somaliland may have against the defunct military regime, others have grievances against its own treatment of its own people, including the right to self-determination.

        • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

          Abukar, as you confirmed that every one is intitled to his/her opinion, deu to your on-going specific misery of lack of finding everlasting peaceful solution in somalia, they are forced to specific Road Map that Somaliland couldn’t be tested. However sensitive “truth shall set you free”. If we claim what is ours and legitimate, we should not deny other’s. It is not our style. Somaliland as you now is responsible intity in eyes of so many and there are adjuratory venues, domistic and international, that others, that you are implying to have grievances against, can take. On the other hand, mere verbal or witten word can provoke and kill. Remember the pen is mightier than the sword. Hummans are not immune to mistakes. On common ground, those who engage dailogue peacefully can meet their goals. It is now time for me to divine my goal to you as the minstry of forieng and international relations has just but it :

          I would like to take the opportunity of my imminent arrival in the United Kingdom to set out the views of the Government of Somaliland on the end of the transitional period in Somalia on 20 August
          and to foreshadow my Government’s approach to the upcoming talks between Somaliland and the TFG.
          Somaliland has a strong interest in seeing stability re-established in our neighbour, Somalia. We therefore welcome the positive developments which have taken place there in recent months, including progress towards bringing the transition period to an end. At the same time, we pay tribute to the sacrifices made by AMISOM troops and to the important support of the international community, which have helped to bring this about.
          Three decades after the voluntary union between the former British Protectorate of Somaliland and Italian Somalia in July 1960, Somaliland was driven to reclaim its independence from Somalia in 1991. This decision was not taken lightly. It followed the systematic discrimination and grave human rights abuses committed against our people by the Siyad Barre regime, and the ensuing war which saw the deaths over 50,000 of our citizens, the displacement of hundreds of thousands of others, and the destruction of our capital, Hargeisa.
          Since then, Somaliland has been successful in building peace, establishing a democratic form of government and delivering services to its people. We have done this by means of an indigenous, bottom-up process. In 2001, following a referendum which received the overwhelming support of the people of Somaliland, our country adopted a new constitution, which reaffirmed that the national territory of the independent Republic of Somaliland is identical to that of the Somaliland Protectorate, to which Britain granted independence in June 1960. Subsequent elections, which were deemed free and fair by international monitors, have elected governments firmly committed to Somaliland’s independence. We believe that our experience of peace-building may be of interest to others, including our Somali brothers.
          Given this history, it is unacceptable to Somaliland that the new draft Somalia constitution might purport to lay claim to our country. Somaliland emphatically rejects any such claim on our national territory.
          However, Somaliland is more than willing to have constructive discussions with the TFG or its successor about clarifying our future relations, and about matters of mutual interest, including the fight against terrorism, piracy and jihadism. Somaliland is grateful to the United Kingdom, Norway and the European Union for agreeing to co-host the exploratory talks on 21 June. We will approach those discussions in good faith and in a spirit of cooperation with a view to reinforcing and building peace and stability in the Horn.
          We ask that the international community now accept the reality that Somaliland is independent, and that promoting a dialogue between two sovereign entities in Hargeisa and Mogadishu will only aid our shared objective of securing a peaceful, stable Horn of Africa.
          I would be most grateful to you if you would bring this letter to the attention of His Excellency the Secretary General of the United Nations, as well as to the other Members of the UN Security Council.
          Please accept, Foreign Secretary, the assurances of my highest consideration.
          Dr Mohamed A. Omar
          Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation
          Republic of Somaliland
          cc Baroness Ashton of Upholland PC,
          High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy
          & Vice President of the European Commission
          Jonas Gahr Støre, Foreign Minister of Norway

          Peace

          • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

            Forgive me that I did’t put the qoutation marks the goals are the words of Mohamed Omer.

    • Abukar Arman

      “For better conversation and intellectual debate on how best you can rebuild your country and clarifications and confirmations that Somaliland is irreversible and infallible would you mind have an SKYPE Conference with me and other Somalilanders.” I welcome the invitation, but we must talk about the details… You may contact me through e-mail [email protected].

    • Abukar Arman
  • rEVOLUTIONARY

    Somalilanders and their tribal ilk are the scum of Somalis. Our Patriotic Father Siad Barre was right to target those scum and Somalidiids.

    They are part and parcel of Somalia forever and they are going nowehere, if we have to we will use force one day, they will pay for their stupid tribal dreams, mr amran u are correct they are nothing but qaabilists and will suffer in the new somalia, These Isaaqs because of their stupid project they should have nothing to do with the new SOmalias political hierarchy, every1 who liked the Somalidiid project should be put into hard labour and be tasked with helping to rebuild Mogadishu the heartbeat of Somalis everywhere, from north to south.
    Viva Mogadishu and Somalia.

    • Eurokid

      So these are the people we should be re-joining in a “brotherly, fraternal union”?

      • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

        Are they for real? Is this their true color or perceived civility? Let us hope these are not the Somalia people who we have to negotiate with in the soon to come final dissolution settlement. Imposters maybe are at work here.

      • Abukar Arman

        Eurokid and Dhegaweyne, there are provocateurs on both sides. I dont know if it helps any one to elevate them to a higher status and consider them the voice of one side or the other. It is best to engage them positively or to ignore them.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, revolutionary, for the feedback. As a self-declared revolutionary person, I am sure you can do better than this. Hate-speech will not advance our discourse, it only fuels division and hate, and sets the stage for perpetual violence.

    • Abukar Arman

      Please check below for my response.

  • Fair Man

    Here is a winning formula for all
    Hargeisa for Isaaqs
    Las-Anod for Dhulos
    Borama for Samaroons
    and Somaliland for Somalis – All 4.5 +0.5 or all 5

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Fair Man, for the feedback.

      As the rest of the world advances, we as Somalis (regardless of our preferred contemporary identity construct) are faced with the challenge of choosing between these two options: to accept each other as individuals, communities, and regions of the same nation; or to reject each other as individuals, communities, and villages of tribal fiefdoms condemned to hopelessly struggle through a perpetual zero-sum game. The choice is ours!

  • Puntland Geeza

    Somaliland is a joke and it be destroyed soon. Stupid is@@qs We don’t need them, but they will nevr ever have ther own cauntry NOO. Dey make my blood boil it cos of them Somalia is sufferng, they are destroy somalia today the bastards

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Puntland Geeza, for the feedback. Your hate-speech would most likely inspires something equally provocative. How is that going to make your “blood boil” less?

      I think we can do better than this in engaging one another.

  • Jawse MN

    With myself being from the diaspora and London to be precise I felt that I could offer a fresh perspective on Somaliland and our hopes and aspiration for Somaliland.
    Being a Somali person in the West and part of the wider Somali diaspora one always comes across the topic of allegiance. Should our allegiance be to Somaliland or to Somalia? To put it frankly my allegiance is to the Somali people first and foremost and then Somaliland as my mother country. Some would argue that this is contradictory so here I shall elaborate. The whole concept of nation states is a new phenomenon in human history and more so in African history.
    Somaliland became the first Somali territory to gain de jure independence and international recognition on 26th June 1960 and followed by Somlia (then Italian Somaliland) on 1st July 1960. As Somaliland chose to unilaterally join Somalia on 1st July, therefore, the first genuine notion of nationhood for Somali peoples existed then and the blue and white flag became the flag of the Somali Republic (as it was officially known then). Therefore, those who argue that supporting Somaliland is wrong and that your allegiance should be to Somalia as a whole use only 31 years of nationhood (1960-1991) as a standard bearer (subtracting the 21 years in which Somaliland declared its re-independence). Whereas Somaliland as an entity existed for 80 years previously (although a protectorate).

    The whole notion of colonialism is indeed a dirty chapter in the history of Africa, however, before the British, French and Italians colonised Somali speaking peoples was there ever a united nation of Somalis? Although I wish there was, sadly the facts remain that as Somalis we have always been disconnected and concentrated into distinct entities, whether they be the Awdal sultanate, Majeerteen sultanate, warsangali sultanate, Sultanate of hobyo, dervish state the list goes on. So according to the facts of Somali history there has never truly been a united Somali nation and the closest was witnessed during the union of 1960 and the formation of the Somali republic. Needless to say this ill fated union proved to be disastrous and destructive (due to the nature of Siad Barre’s rule). Going back to my topic at hand I am not arguing for the piecemeal division of Somali territories, rather what I am asking is why do some consider it so sacrilegious when people choose to have an allegiance to Somaliland considering that it existed as an entity first (albeit briefly) and that a united Somalia only really ever existed for 31 years and even then political, economic and cultural power were all concentrated in Mogadishu unevenly, meaning that sadly Northern citizens barely got to taste the fruits of union within this 31 year period due to the centralization of power in Mogadishu.
    Therefore, people have to understand that when one supports Somaliland it does not mean that they forfeit their allegiance to the Somali people in general whether they be in Ogaden, Djibouti, Somaliland or Somalia. I genuinely believe that one can be a Somali nationalist and still have allegiance to Somaliland. What surprises me so much is that there is a genuine hate for Somaliland among some Somalis despite the fact that when it declared its re-independence in 1991 it did not step on anyone rather all it did was reconcile the various clans and elements within society to bring about state-building and empowerment, surely this is a noble venture.

    When one says they are a Somalilander a common misconception is that the person is claiming not to be Somali and therefore a traitor of somesort. However, this misconception is very easy to banish, an individual from Somaliland is a Somali by ethnicity and Somalilander by nationality. An example can be found in that of a Moroccon person, they are Arab by ethnicity and Moroccon by nationality so whenever they refer to themselves as Moroccon they have not necessarily forfeitted their Arab heritage. An example closer to home can be found in that of Djiboutians who are of course Somali yet referred to as Djiboutians freely with little controversy and likewise Somalilanders should be able to encounter little controversy, because despite nationality we all share our common heritage, being Somalis and although it would be ideal to all share a country (a Greater Somalia if you will) in reality this is far from feasible as history has shown. Arguments often state how because Somalis are one of the most homogenous peoples in the world then they should have a united country, however countries such as Jordan and Saudi Arabia are equally homogenous and to such an extent that the people who rule both are from the Hashemite kingdoms and are actual cousins, yet this does not entail a shared state.
    People have to understand the difference between idealism and realism, every Somali would like a united state just the same way as every Muslim would like a united Ummah, however conditions at the current time do not favour the former or latter occurring. For this reason Somaliland is within its rights to pursue its statehood free from rebuttel and demonization. In its relationship with Somalia; Somaliland follows the political/economic mantra “whatever is yours belongs to you and whatever is mine belongs to me”, compare this to the political/economic mantra Puntland adopts in its relationships with Somalia, “whatever is yours is mine and whatever is mine belongs to me”. It is plain to see which relationship is more exploitative and yet it is Somaliland that is demonized amongst some so called diaspora intellectuals from Somalia who always try to downplay every little achievemnt Somaliland undergoes. In fact of all the Somali administrations, Somaliland is the one of the few to actually offer refugees fleeing from the Mogadishu war safe settlement in Hargeisa and its other cities, as evidenced by the recent creation of homes for 300 families displaced by war in Burao, Somaliland. Compare this with the actions of the Puntland administration which has been criticized by Human rights watch for dispelling and violating the rights of fleeing refugees from Mogadishu and South Central Somalia.
    Often I hear other Somalis say the past is the past and we should move forward together and yes this is a noble idea but in the next instance you will hear these same people praise Siad barre as a patriot, when this is the same man who actively tried to commit a genocide against the Northern citizens (see objective publications such as Human rights watch 1990). Furthermore, the recent mobilization in the US of Somali unionists defending the indicted war criminal General Samatar (who coincidentally pleaded guilty to war crimes committed in the North in the 90s) also show this fallacy along with the fact that General Morgan (aka the butcher of Hargeisa) still holds influence in Somalia’s politics. Granted Siad Barre also committed atrocities against all tribes and Somali citizens bar his own, however none of this was in comparison to the active, genocide driven aims that his administration pursued in the North. If one truly wants to look at the reason for the failure of the Somali republic then one has to look no further than Siad Barre whose ruthless divide and rule policies still leave a toxic legacy for Somalis today in the Horn of Africa.

    Even when one leaves the recent, gory history behind, the fact of the matter is that people have the right of self-determination and for this reason Somaliland has every moral right to want to pursue its statehood as proven by its constitution and referendum of 2001 in which over 95% of Somalilanders voted for this (as verified by independent institutions). However, at the same time Somaliland has to genuinely address the aspirations of those residing in the Eastern regions of Somaliland as they too deserve their own choices. Nevertheless it is a known fact that all of these clans were present in 1991 and at that time they chose the path of reconciliation and state-building. In modern times they have pursued different aims and to be honest in the Eastern regions it does seem that there is genuine confusion amongst its participants on what they want, some call for union (and pledge allegiance to Khatuumo state) and others genuinely want to be integrated into Somaliland’s development projects and plans. In the case of Awdal, my home region this is a complete different story as the diaspora driven Awdal state has been just that a diaspora driven project which has influence in social media circles (such as youtube, facebook etc) but very little reality on the ground as the inhabitants of Boorama and other towns within the Awdal region are genuinely loyal and immersed in the Somaliland project as evidenced by the nickname of Boorama “the mother of Somaliland” considering it was here that the most important decisions about Somaliland’s sovereignty and independence were discussed in 1991.

    The fact of the matter is that Somaliland has chosen its path towards democracy and prosperity and the wishes of its people will be respected whether international recognition comes or not. Naysayers fail to comprehend that Somalilanders are genuinely loyal to their state whether recognition comes or not, the reason being the people have chosen their path and consolidated it, so for Somaliland there really is no turning back now as it has chosen its path and moved forwards. In regards to the Somalia political scene, there is little Somaliland can offer but its best wishes to Somalia. The case of Taiwan can be used to parallel that with Somaliland. Although seen internationally as a country, Taiwan is not actually a country and not even a member of the UN, instead it is considered a renegade province of China (due to China’s hostility to its independence). Yet despite these setbacks Taiwan has pursued its economic and political development in a frighteningly efficient manner as proven by its rapid economic growth and democratisation, it is a wonder that Taiwan is considered an Asian superpower despite not actually being a fully fledged recognized country. Obviously it is a stretch for Somaliland (a poor East African nation) to achieve those same successes, but Somaliland could do alot worse than adopt Taiwan as a good example to aspire to considering their shared issues of lack of genuine international recognition.

    Somaliland is far from perfect, however it is genuinely a marvel considering the fact that Somaliland has achieved state-building and reconciliation for 21 years with little outside influence. In contrast the US have pursued state building in countries as far flung as Vietnam (in the 70s) and Iraq and Afghanistan in modern times and despite plowing millions into these countries the outcomes have been modest at best. In contrast Somaliland achieved something which is a rarity in modern African politics, which is the armed movement (in this case SNM) voluntarily choosing to disarm itself in favor of a civilian government (in this case the administration of Egal AUN). Often we all know that in African politics if the armed movement gains control of a territory or a country then it dominates the political sphere and dictates the path of the country. Granted that there do remain SNM veterans in the Somaliland administration (principally President Silanyo), they have gained these positions because of their own efforts and it was truly amazing statecraft from President Egal to demobilize the SNM and reintegrate them into the Somaliland national army. For this reason Somalilanders everywhere should truly be grateful to President Egal for his foresighted vision of statehood of Somaliland which has laid the fondations and prevailed today.

    Furthermore, when touching on democracy it genuinely surprises me how Somaliland is demonized considering the fact that it is a genuine and fledgling democracy. Critics of Somaliland often use the recycled argument that it is a one clan establishment. However, the emergence of President Dahir Riyale Kahin following Egal’s death and the even more significant event of Dahir Riyale Kahin winning elections (in 2003) to serve a full 8 year term is testament that Somaliland is a democracy as one does not need to be from the main clan to secure victory in a genuine democratic elections. This was proven by the fact that Somaliland’s first elected President (Kahin) was not from the majority clan in Somaliland nor did he have any links with the SNM movement of the 1990s. Instead in Somaliland all one needs to do is to pledge allegiance to the state and its sovereignty which is perfectly rational considering that a country has to always aims to protect its independence. Granted Somaliland’s democratic pedigree is still in its early stages and the Silanyo administration although efficient and technocratic is far from perfect, however, Somaliland is the only nation in East Africa which freely and fairly elects its head of state and for that it is still a ray of hope in an otherwise blighted horn of Africa region.

    To conclude, it is important for the young diaspora of Somaliland to continue to support their burgeoning country and thankfully I always come across increasingly well educated and motivated young Somalilanders from all hues of political thought and from both genders. Indeed it is equally important for us Somalilanders to assist our fellow Somalis wherever they may be and to always be proud of our country: Somaliland and to try and avoid the ills that have afflicted so many before us, namely tribalism and greed.

    by Jawse MN

    • oneloveXamar

      Articles like these make me realize Siad Barre (AUN) was right in trying to kill of these stupid peoples. Sometimes I think that they are rebellious and treacherous by nature. Siad Barre was right when he said the ish@@qs are the jews of Somalis

      • KidCarlito

        Shakes my head, Wow! No Comment!

      • Abukar Arman

        oneloveXamar, you can do better than this. Keep in mind, hate-speech poisons the mind and the heart. It divides us further, and sows generational hate.

        While Siad Barre’s legacy has both good and bad, I think he was no different than other dictators of his nature, his bad side outweighed his good side. And when it comes to his handling of the “rebellion” in the North, his choices were bad and indeed evil all the way.

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Jawse MN, for the feedback. I enjoyed reading your post. I agree with most of it and I disagree with certain assumption that you make.

      Focusing on our points of agreement (though a half a sentence), it is important (for all Somalis) to avoid “…ills that have afflicted so many before us, namely tribalism and greed.” In our context, these two are the disgraceful mother and father of injustice!

    • Abukar Arman

      [sorry this wrongly posted in a different column below] Thank you, Jawse MN, for the feedback. I enjoyed reading your post. I agree with most of it and I disagree with certain assumption that you make. Focusing on our points of agreement (though a half a sentence), it is important (for all Somalis) to avoid “…ills that have afflicted so many before us, namely tribalism and greed.” In our context, these two are the disgraceful mother and father of injustice!

  • Aideed

    Somalidiid people ANGER me so much wallahi. Anyone who supports Somaliland is a dirty idoor and they can go hell!!! Somalidiidland will die and suffer a death. We should exterminate the lot of dem, they deserve no mercy at all. They are nobody and nothing, we always ruled dem and now they are arrogant. Mr Amran you and the TFG need to stop these idoors and somalidiids, we will educate their children that their country is Somalia and that ther parents are dirty liars.

    Somalidiidland can burn in hell and is@@q ppl will suffer long time I hope.

    Somalia ha noolato

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Aideed, for the feedback. Left un-interfered, “ANGER” is born large and grows into a state of smallness! By and large, our anger has been diminishing, please don’t become the dangerous fuel to reignite it.

  • Colly

    An international supervised Referendum within the State of Somaliland (26th June 1960) borders, how does that sound?

    I mean just look at South Sudan and Eriteria they both had countrywide referendums before leaving their parent country (Sudan and Ethiopia respectively). To be fair Somaliland already had an internationally verified referendum in 2001 with 97% supporting it. But for claritys sake it can be done one more time.

    I think its time for these Somaliland antagonists to put their money where their mouth is and accept a referendum in Somaliland based between Union and Sovereignty. If Somaliland really is unsustainable then there is nothing to worry about, right?

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Colly, for the feedback. Yours is a fair proposal that the two committees who are currently meeting in London ought to consider. And if they choose to go that route, they ought to come to consensus per the nature of that referendum. Would it be exclusive to the political entity currently know as Somaliland or the entire state known as Somalia? Assuming they agree to the former; what if Khaatumo, Maakhir, and Awdal states opt out? Would they be forced to partake or be allowed to exercise their rights? And if they were allowed to exercise their rights wouldn’t the referendum mainly be an expression of one clan’s ambition?

      You mentioned South Sudan and Eritrea; as much as I hate to say this, in terms of its internal volatility, Somaliland is more like the former. Six months into its statehood, South Sudan, due to internal clan-based distrust and external exploitation, was on fire. As you might be aware, the prospect for sustainable peace and prosperity in that country is very grim to say the least. As you watch the video linked below, please listen with empathic ears to the grievances of some of the non-Dinka tribes and see if you notice any similarities with the grievances that come from the people of Khaatumo, Maakhir, Awdal, and other minority clans whose voices are seldom heard.

      http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/sudanthebreakup/2011/06/201162311444468410.html

  • Colly

    I can not speak for Laasanood or Maakhir, however, have you actually been to Borama or the Awdal region and seen the actual facts on the ground??

    Its no coincidence that one of the highest voter turn outs in Somaliland occur within the Awdal region and its also no coincidence that the majority of the Awdalite elders support the Somaliland sovereignty that they help lay the foundations for in 1993. My mother’s family is from Boorama and I have visited this city countless times and I can say for a fact that the diaspora driven Awdal project has next to no existence on the ground unlike the Khatuumo project. Also if the Awdalite voices are not heard then why isit that people from that region have occupied important posts such as President, Vice President etc of Somaliland for the past 20 years.

    I genuinely believe that on your part Mr Amran, you are clutching at straws to say that the Awdal population’s aspirations in Somaliland are being hijacked by one clan within Somaliland. I try and be objective as much as I can be, hence my reason on not touching on the Khatuumo issue as there seems to be a genuine decision of the people there to follow their own course. The fact remains that on the ground Khatuumo has support

    However, by trying to cite the diaspora driven Awdalite project which has no basis on the ground (it certainly exists in the diaspora) you have shown your genuine bias against Somaliland as you cite it despite a paucity of influence on the ground. Nevertheless, Mr Amran what is one to expect since your aim is to have a unified Somalia, however, you should examine the facts on the ground always before touching on anything.

    • Abukar Arman

      Colly, I only projected a plausible scenario and wondered what would the official response be, and how a rational person like you would address. I did not promote one plausible outcome or another.

      Unless one’s is in denial, realities on the ground in Somaliland and Somalia as a whole are different than in 2001. I did not visit the Awdal region; however, in addition to reports in the media and Awdalite websites, I have a number of friends who hail from that community. Most of them express disillusionment and bitter grievance. Something similar to what is expressed in the article linked below.
      http://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2012/06/19/somalilnad-doesnt-matter-response-article-somaliland-matters/

      Of course, I don’t speak for the Awdal State, but, dismissing their claim and chosen identity as a diaspora-based who don’t have support on the ground is a fallacious argument. Remember, SNM, SSDF, USC, SSC now Khatumo, Maakhir, etc. were all founded by Somalis in the diaspora.

      So, going back to my original scenario, “…what if Khaatumo, Maakhir, and Awdal states opt out? Would they be forced to partake or be allowed to exercise their rights? And if they were allowed to exercise their rights wouldn’t the referendum mainly be an expression of one clan’s ambition?”

  • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

    Time and again Mr Arman, you remain to ignore or not to set your eyes on the facts and keeping to persuade the clueless and naive people that Somaliland is in shambles is your goal in keeping the hopefulness the desparately dire situation of anti-Somaliland crusadors whose only reality is virtual states that doesn’t exist and are nothing more than mere websites. The fact is that your suggestions and biased delusional observation. Your entire urgument has come down to ” what if Khatumo, Makhir and Awdal opt out?” Taking them one by one, let me start the one that is most touchable and popular Khatumo by name. The only spot in Somaliland that this pro-Greater Somalia group is found is Buuhoodle and you know where it is located. Buuhoodle is on the border between Ethiopia and Somaliland. When ever they are aproached by Somaliland defence forces, they flee to Ethiopian side of the city. Somaliland keeps them on the border for reason that contains them there. It could take like the snap of the finger to get rid of them but Somaliland doesn’t want civilians to get hurt and flee just to live in refugee camp. The peace call from Siilaanyo adminstration is on the works and as you know and deny there is always homecoming group. Ask yourself where is Ali Khaliif. You know that there is no one clan that occupies a region of the five Somaliland’s original regions. For example Dhulbahante shares Sool with other clans althoug they belong the capital of the Sool. They are divided by the new wars by the TFG and Farole(the pirate sponsor) just to distabilize Somaliland. You know the Sanaag region is mostly inhabited by Habarjeclo and Habar Yonis Except two districts of Lasqoray and Badhan which support Somaliland. If you are trying to mislead the world, you failed. Becouse they are the ones who are providing assistance with thier humanitarian agencies, the west know more than you think and they have the the Intellectual and finnancial means to study. I know when you have written this, your target audience are western powers who, in your trouble, are already on the ground. The last group is small part of Awdal diaspora who are just like you pens for hire. You are right that Somaliland is whole defferent than 2001 becouse it is stronger than ever and more legitimate government than your TFG and most of African nations except few like Gana, South Africa and Kenya. Check this out : “We all witnessed post elections violence that erupted in Kenya after the December 2007 elections. Yet unrecognised Somaliland has just conducted elections that all observers, including its neighbours, Djibouti and Ethiopia have admitted were “free and fair” and the losing parties have accepted defeated.
    Meanwhile, Somaliland’s incoming president, Ahmed Mohamed Silanyo has vowed to fight for recognition from the international community. He told AFP: “during my tenure as president I will vigorously fight for the recognition of Somaliland. The world must recognise our democracy.”

    http://www.africaontheblog.com/why-unrecognised-somaliland-is-a-model-for-african-democracy/
    I believe corruption is Africa’s main enemy and the root of all under development.
    “n Somaliland the national budget increased 300% and all government employees’ salaries were raised 200% in just 1 year of the former opposition party being in power, all of that happened because of transparency and good governance. The new government has pledged to fight corruption and the results are seen in new developmental projects all over Somaliland.”
    One Somalilander by the name Ayah said. Where your TFG stands in the corruptive failed stated? number one, I am sure. Only people who are against Somaliland are the corruptive TFG who creates and pays the websites of some diaspora Somalis to pose as Adminstrations.

    • Abukar Arman

      Ahmed Dhegaweyne, I don’t think that “Somaliland is in shambles”- far from it. As I said a number of times, the North has achieved some remarkable goals such as the indigenous reconciliation that lasted for two decades. And no one can take that away from them. Coincidently, I tweeted this line today which I somehow thought might be relevant to our discussion “Politics is a fluid element that sustains or destroys lives depending on the environment in which it formed & the condition it was subjected to!”

      Out of curiosity, do you not see the unfairness in accepting the notion that one group of Somalis (like in Somaliland) deserve to exercise their right to self-determination while other group of Somalis (like in Khaatumo) deserve only to be beaten into submission or chased across the boarder into a foreign country. Any administration or a government that fails to recognize that selective justice has only a short life span is bound to find itself in history’s disgraceful pages of infamy. Peace!

      • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

        Feeding your curiosity, I don not accept nor support the notion that one group of Somalis deserve to unfairness and be taken thier God given right to self-determination while other group of Somalis are only to be suffocated and thier choice not considered. Anyhow your comparison of Somaliland with the TFG and Ali Khalif Galaydh ingineered “Khatumo”. The only people who have been chased across the boarder into a foreign country were Somaliland people by the Last Somalia functioning government during 1980′s. It is known fact that the people of parts of Sool and Sanaag are divided politically into three and support Somaliland and Somalia(between Khatumo and Puntland). My argument is that the people who controlled most of Somalia were supporters of Al-Shabab yet they are at this time of being beaten and chased away. Great people of Sool and Sanaag and its majority are happy with Somaliland and they are part of the fabric of Somaliland society. Their towns are not distroyed and they enjoy the same rights of that the rest of the Somalilnd people enjoy. In Somaliland we don’t call names and frame as terrorists the people we disagree with. There is political process and environmet that freedom of speech and peaceful protests are protected by the constitution. All Somalilanders should be protected against violence exported by the Somalia warlords. When the time comes and democratically elected Somalia governmet is found to exsist, Somalia can take legal and peaceful venues to ratify and witness another Somaliland people’s referendum only if they are willing to pay for the expenses since it is repetition of 2001 referendum to be repeated. The claims of these people are baseless as they have no legal rights to claim secession from the rest of Somaliland with thier claim they want to be part of Somalia for they never been an entity that is more than a segment of minority clan. Even under the so called TFG charter and laws, only states containing more than two of the 18 regions of the former Somali Republic can qualify as “state”. What would you expect from Somaliland to do? There is no sellective justice in Somaliland and if “khatumo” was legitimate could have been like Ahlusunna Wal-jamaca or Galmudug as part of the Road Map. Unfortunately they for you, they claim part of Somaliland that the world recognized as defacto and the Majority of Somaliland people’s wishes are respected by the world.
        However, these are final agreement between Somalia and Somaliland as the world witnessed:

        i) Agreed that the talks would take place between two sides ‐ the TFG (or its replacement) and Somaliland, in accordance with paragraph 6 of the London Conference Communiqué and paragraph 10 of the Istanbul II Conference Communiqué;

        (ii) Noted the need to adopt a common approach to avoid anything that would undermine the continuation of the talks as defined above;

        (iii) Committed to the continuation of the talks and called on the two presidents to meet to review progress as soon as possible; (iv) Called on the international community to continue to facilitate the talks, including providing the two sides with external experts on legal, economic and security matters;

        (v) Agreed to share experience on working more effectively with the international community on the use of development and humanitarian assistance for the people of both sides and called for the international community to increase that assistance;

        (vi) Agreed to cooperate in the fight against terrorism, extremism and serious crime; (vii) Agreed to cooperate in the fight against piracy at sea and on land, maritime crime, illegal fishing and toxic dumping; and

        (viii) Reiterated their support for ending the Transition in Somalia(which Somaliland is not part of).
        Please keep the peace and be bound to agreements and don’t preach the accord signed by your supperiors (TFG of its replacement)

        Peace to you too

        • Abukar Arman

          With all due respect, Ahmed Dhegaweyne, I don’t how one can reconcile your opening statement and a good portion of the body of your response. I am sorry as much as I hate to dwell on this, I must challenge this convenient narrative that often justifies the selective justice that I spoke of. By the way, it is the classic narrative used to demonize the SNM and project that movement as a fringe element that did not represent the people’s grievance against the military government.

          That said, I believe the outcome of the London meeting is a major step toward confidence-building and a better future for all Somalis.

  • Indho

    F*** Somaliland!!! It does not exist nor will it ever exist.

    There is only 1 Somalia

    • Abukar Arman

      Indho, I am sure you can do better than this. Your communication choice does not only offend the people who your perceive as your opponents, but most of those whom you count on being on your side. Please try to engage people more civilly. I am sure you are smart enough to articulate your points differently. Thank you.

  • Ahmed Dhegaweyne

    Thank you abukar. Though I disagree most of your thoughts of the subject on hand, you are defferent from the rest of your supporters. Please, try to rate and compare my side with coments of your team. Please come to my side and believe me, you won’t regret. We are at the turning point of history, don’t be on the wrong side. Please go with the tide and I know you can’t defeat the truth, then isn’t it preferable to join?

    • Abukar Arman

      Thank you, Ahmed Dhegaweyne. I consider the invitation an honor, though I still remain very much concerned how you avoid offering direct answers per the selective justice issue.

  • Ahmed Dhegweyne

    Mr Abucar I have givin you all the answers you asked in details ( per the selective justs issues) ,unfortunately you kept asking me same questions again and again.
    I think the answers I gave you does not fit those you were expecting to fit the way you like the most
    The truth is sometimes too hard to swallow , it cannot be denied.
    If you are still intersted my answers for justs issue please refer back my previous comments

    • Abukar Arman

      Mr Dhegaweyne, I am sorry but I am not sure if you reconciled your expressed contradiction. I was not trying to win an argument. I was just trying to put a mirror in front of us lest we become more empathic people. Any one who thinks his/her side is ALWAYS right is someone who is either a partisan or some thing worse! Every Somali group that once had an armed militia has others (often minorities) who claim grievances against them. And genuine reconciliation does not start with doctoring words, but, with sincere confession of guilt. Starting with myself, I am guilty on not being vocal enough in 1988 when my government was brutally attacking my people. For that I shall extend this public apology: I am sorry!

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Abukar Arman
Abukar Arman

Abukar Arman is a former diplomat (Somalia's Special Envoy to the US). He is a widely published political analyst. His focus is post-civil war Somalia, extremism, Islam, and US foreign policy. He is a DiploAct of a sort (fusion of diplomacy & activism).
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